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German bishops decide against changing the ‘Our Father’
Catholic Herald ^ | January 25, 2018 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 01/25/2018 10:20:18 AM PST by ebb tide

The German bishops’ conference has decided not to change their translation of the Our Father prayer.

In a statement, the bishops said they will keep the line “And lead us not into temptation” as it is, despite recent comments from Pope Francis suggesting it was misleading.

The Pope said the line wrongly implies that God tempts people into evil. He told a French TV station in December that this was “not a good translation”, adding: “I am the one who falls. It’s not Him pushing me into temptation to then see how I have fallen.

“A father doesn’t do that, a father helps you to get up immediately. It’s Satan who leads us into temptation, that’s his department.”

The French version was recently changed to “do not let us enter into temptation” to reflect this, but the English, Italian and German versions remain the same.

Now the German bishops have announced they will keep their translation as it is, in order to maintain unity with Protestant denominations and with other countries.

However, they added that there should be “greater emphasis on clarifying the meaning and the theological background of this petition to the Lord in conversations, discussions and text contributions.”

The Roman Missal renders the line in Latin as “et ne nos inducas in tentationem”. However, the word “tentationem” and its Greek equivalent “πειρασμόν” have been translated in various ways over the centuries.

Some say it better translates as “trial” or “testing”, and could refer either to the Last Judgment or to trials described elsewhere in Scripture, such as those suffered by Job.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: ecumania; francischurch; ourfather
Now the German bishops have announced they will keep their translation as it is, in order to maintain unity with Protestant denominations and with other countries.

Yet these same German bishops want to bless adulterous and homosexual "unions".

1 posted on 01/25/2018 10:20:18 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I always knew “our head Dude” would never have a chance.


2 posted on 01/25/2018 10:24:44 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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"Brief note: we lost the battle. Here is the New Missal, with the new translation of the Our Father "by Fra Cristoforo
3 posted on 01/25/2018 10:39:15 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

I thought it was going to be the anti-male contingent who tried to get the words man and men removed from scripture and songs. I expected to see “Our Parent, which art in Heaven...”


4 posted on 01/25/2018 11:18:20 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: ebb tide
The Pope said the line wrongly implies that God tempts people into evil.

No it doesn't. That's just plain stupid. Everyone knows that the meaning is "do not let us be led to temptation" - by ourselves or third parties other than God. This pope seems to function at moron level.

5 posted on 01/25/2018 11:23:41 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: ebb tide

Good.

We’re not idiots. We KNOW the prayer is NOT saying that God leads us into temptation.


6 posted on 01/25/2018 11:35:49 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ebb tide

“Our Mother, who redecorated Heaven....


7 posted on 01/25/2018 2:12:56 PM PST by GingisK
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