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To: WatchungEagle
The fact of the matter is, Christians have no idea just how gracious their God is and how fallen they have become. They have no idea that to understand John 3:16, they must begin in John 3:13 in light of John 1:10-13 and then continue all the way through John 3:36. Confessing that Jesus is the Christ alone may offer eternal life, however, it does not save us from the wrath of God, the same wrath that got Israel exiled from His land.

I was taught growing up that wrath was equivalent to eternal death, however, when I walked away from religion and began reading & studying His Word independently of the influences of men, He showed me His word that says the 2nd resurrection is not necessarily fatal for all raised during that time because there is going to be many who find themselves awakened at that 2nd resurrection whose names are indeed written in the Book of Life, it is just that they missed out on the reward of Christ when He returns to rule for 1000 yrs.

Therefore, to say that there are two different outcomes when Christ returns, one for Jews & one for Christians who ignorantly still claim to be gentiles, this is the kind of unbiblical fodder that is destroying God's house from within rather than bringing it together as one as it was at the base of Mt Sinai,, when the mixed multitude, both natural born & foreigner, were brought together as one through Christ, the living Word of God who is the same today as he was when He delivered Israel & the gentiles who chose to join Israel through Christ from the bondage of Egypt. Shalom

16 posted on 01/11/2018 5:46:15 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
Confessing that Jesus is the Christ alone may offer eternal life, however, it does not save us from the wrath of God, the same wrath that got Israel exiled from His land.

The words of Christ John recorded disagree with you.

16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17“For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

18“He who believes in Him

is not judged;

he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 3:16-18 NASB

18 posted on 01/11/2018 7:08:45 PM PST by ealgeone
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