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To: patlin

No where does it say we are grafted into Israel.

Ro 11:17 Now if some of the boughs are broken out, yet you, being a wild olive, are grafted among them, and became joint participant of the root and*fatness of the olive.

The olive tree has its roots, but are not Israel alone. The root is Christ, the Log of Life. They grew from that root, they are not the roots themselves. They flourish as we do when we remain in Him. They have been cut off, except for a remnant.

The book of Hebrews was written to a particular people, not Gentiles:

Hb 1:1 By many portions and many modes, of old, God, speaking to the fathers in the prophets, in the last of these days speaks to us in a Son,

The Fathers,
The Prophets,
To us (Jewish believers who alone have fathers, prophets and had the Lord’s presence among them)

If you try to insert the Gentile nations into this letter as being part of the audience, you unhinge the testimony of the truth of God through Paul, His only appointed apostle to the Gentiles.

Israel will inherit the earth, along with the royal, kingly priesthood over the nations of the earth according to promise. But no believer today will be a part of that covenant. It is on earth, ours is among the celestial host in heaven. Our allotment is in heaven, theirs is upon the earth.

This you should know.


11 posted on 01/11/2018 4:56:44 PM PST by 5cents (fivesense)
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To: 5cents
The book of Hebrews was written to a particular people, not Gentiles:

Are you suggesting Hebrews is not applicable to Christians??

12 posted on 01/11/2018 5:05:44 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: 5cents
Israel will inherit the earth, along with the royal, kingly priesthood over the nations of the earth according to promise. But no believer today will be a part of that covenant. It is on earth, ours is among the celestial host in heaven.

WOW

Biblically, olive trees simply refer to mankind, there are natural born Israelites and then there are those born of the nations who are grafted into Israel know as wild olive trees. Therefore, when we are grafted into(adopted) the natural tree of Israel through Messiah, as that has been the case from the beginning since Christ is Israel (Isa 49:1-3), we become members of the same household of God. Do parents have separate rules for natural born children and adopted children who live in their homes based on their birth heritage?

So your statement that Israel remains on earth while gentile Christians are whisked away to live on some cloud playing the violin for eternity, well, that doctrine is not supported by the bible or any words spoken by Jesus. That doctrine is dispensationalism that began in the apostate catholic church of the 2nd century and made famous by Scofield's Talmudic reference bible, and it all comes straight out of the playbook of the anti-Christ. The biblical fact of the matter is, there is neither Jew or Gentile, but all are one and that one is Messiah who is the true Israel. Shalom

15 posted on 01/11/2018 5:28:24 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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