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To: Mrs. Don-o
It says all generations "will" call Mary Blessed. We like to fulfill this prophecy with joy, because Scripture says she's our mother: precisely in that section about the Mother of the Messiah, the "Woman Clothed with the Sun" which says we are "the rest of her offspring":

Oh, my gosh! A twofer!

I've already shown you what the Greek says. Mary is "counted" as blessed by all generations - not called blessed. So your statement is false twice, Mrs. Don-o.

Second, Scripture never calls Mary our mother. Ever. The passage about Israel is not about Mary. Great try though.

I do hope your new year is off to a good start.

66 posted on 01/04/2018 11:20:34 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I meant to ping you on post 69
70 posted on 01/04/2018 12:02:23 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Hey-there, Hi-there, Ho-there, aMPU. Always nice to have you on the thread.

Surely your comments about "counted" blessed vs "called" blessed are a distinction without a difference.

The meaning here is not "counted" as in "enumerated" (it's not like they're using numbers, saying "1-2-3 Mary Blessed Be") --- the meaning is "counted" as in "called."

Over here at BibleHub (LINK) it shows 25 translations for Luke 1:48. Twenty say "call," three say "count," and one vote each for "ascribe" and "account". Note that KJV and KJV2000 both use "call".

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All Generations Will Call Me Blessed

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Now! For the second part of the "twofer": is the woman of the "Great Sign" Mary? Or somebody else?

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The answer is "yes" and "yes." Like most signs, it is multivalent. Signs can have, and so often do have, multiple layers of meaning.

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A very good line of reasoning would conclude that the Woman of the Great Sign has four related meanings:

So: four overlapping references for this Great Sign personage. Does any one of them have priority?

You could get votes for each of the four. All four are meaningful but I would lean toward "Mary" having priority, because meanings always start with the literal, and she's the literal mother of the literal Messiah described in the passage. And because Jesus, on His cross, gave his mother a son (John)(representing the faithful --- all the others had fled) and gave His faithful --- His Church --- a Mother.

You'll notice that these images inhere in each other.

So many Christians have portrayed her in all these different ways, contemplating the meaning(s) of the Great Sign of Rev. 12.

Some Freepers here in FReeperville like to cheep and cheep that she's nothing special.

But countless numbers of Christians would say, yes, this faithful handmaid, this fair Jewish girl of Galilee, this redeemed one, this Kecharitomene, this Lady of the Incarnation, this Virgin-Mother Mary--- because He who is mighty has done great things for her --- is Something Special.

74 posted on 01/04/2018 2:09:54 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (O Mary, He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.)
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