[MarMema]

Come on over across the pond to northern Michigan. Flags everywhere and you almost never open your own door in a town.

Pay is low and winters are hard, not much hills, but Christianity and respect for veterans is the norm.

Our liberals are downstate.

[so_real]

Good people come from northern Michigan. Ironically when I lived in Georgia, my next door neighbor was from Michigan. He quickly became my best mate down south. Just like Wisconsin, what grinds Michigan down most is the populations in the southern big cities.