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To: RansomOttawa

Well of course: If God decrees/determines that sin will come to pass, He must give permission/authorization/license for it to come to pass otherwise He would be impotent.

But then people don’t really freely choose to disobey God, they MUST disobey God.

In other words, decree trumps ability, as people are totally depraved and totally unable to choose to obey God (per Calvin) — and MUST sin, thereby incurring separation and wrath forever. They are NOT permitted to exercise faith – there is no authorization from God to believe, indeed no provision for them, per Calvinism’s limited atonement and in contradiction to 1 John 2:2 and 1 John 4:10.

So, apparently, your definition of permission (God permits) does not correspond to what most people understand when they think of the word (though it may be technically correct).

People are able (have God’s permission) to sin, but they are not able (do not have God’s permission) to repent or believe.

Is that how you would characterize it?


41 posted on 12/20/2017 11:11:29 AM PST by srweaver (Never Forget the Judicial Homicide of Terri Schiavo)
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To: srweaver
Is that how you would characterize it?

If I wanted to obfuscate rather than clarify.

For how I would characterize it, see my previous posts.

42 posted on 12/20/2017 11:42:15 AM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: srweaver; RansomOttawa

Exactly what is the point you are trying to make?

Are you trying to find some charge to lay at God’s feet?


45 posted on 12/20/2017 12:40:09 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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