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Francis denigrates soldiers, referring to us as "warmongers."
La Salette Journey ^ | November 2, 2017 | Paul Anthonly Melanson

Posted on 11/03/2017 11:44:30 AM PDT by ebb tide

Francis denigrates soldiers, referring to us as "warmongers."

Francis is now denigrating soldiers as "warmongers."  See here.

(Vatican Radio) Pope Francis celebrated the Feast of All Souls Day on Thursday commemorating all those who have died in war, reminding humanity not to forget past lessons and warning that the only fruit yielded by conflict is death.

His words of warning and his powerful condemnation of warmongers came during his homily at the Sicily-Rome American War Cemetery some 50 kilometers south of Rome.

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The Catechism of the Catholic Church (2310), explains that, "Those who are sworn to serve their country in the armed forces (the people Francis refers to as "warmongers") are servants of the security and freedom of nations. If they carry out their duty honorably, they truly contribute to the common good of the nation and the maintenance of peace." 

The Lord God has commanded us, "You shall not kill." There are nine words in Hebrew for taking a life. The word used in Exodus 20: 13 for "Thou shalt not kill" is ratsach, a strong verb used to indicate an intentional and unjustified act of murder, such as the murder of innocent unborn. It does not refer to killing in war ( unless such killing is directed against civilian non-combatants or prisoners of war).  It is therefore disgusting for Francis to suggest that all soldiers who kill in combat are engaged in "evil," and are "warmongers."

The French preacher Lacordaire once said that the vocation of a soldier is next in dignity to the priesthood, not only because it commissioned him to defend justice on the field of battle and order on the field of peace, but also because it called him to the spirit and intention of sacrifice.

It is the soldier's high calling to the defense of justice and freedom which makes him (or should) so loved.  It was a soldier who first spoke the words recalled by the Church during every Mass at Holy Communion: "Lord, I am not worthy to have Thee come under my roof; but only say the word, and my servant will be healed." (Mt 8:8).

The Breviary, which priests pray daily, praises Judas Machabeus, who refused to surrender to superior enemy forces and died saying: "Far be it from us to do such a thing as to flee from them.  If our time has come, let us die bravely for our brethren, and leave no cause to question our honor." (1 Macc 9: 10).

One soldier who served his country selflessly for twenty years was Camille "Joe" Melanson, my father, a non-commissioned officer who served in two wars - the Korean and Vietnam conflicts.  See here: http://www.leominsterhigh.com/lhs-military00.htm

Our family has a long tradition of military service.  I served with military intelligence and was marked for death by the NPA in the Philippines.  My uncle Arthur was lost over the Pacific during World War II.  His body was never recovered.

Warmongers?  Those who have served this country (and other countries) in the defense of freedom deserve better than to be denigrated in such a fashion.

Francis owes us an apology.  He has benefited from our sacrifices.  And this is what he thinks of us?


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To: fidelis; Mrs. Don-o
From Vatican Radio link:

Pope Francis warns warmongers: the only fruit of war is death

If you have a problem with "warmongers" as not a direct quote, take it up with Vatican Radio.

41 posted on 11/03/2017 3:05:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ebb tide
"He didn’t say soldiers are warmongers."

That's right. In fact, I can't find ANY quote from Francis where he himself uses the word "warmonger."

42 posted on 11/03/2017 3:05:32 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: fidelis; Mrs. Don-o
I've just provided you with a direct quote from Vatican Radio.

As far as your other request: here you go:

Pope Francis Says Arms Manufacturers Can't Call Themselves Christian

43 posted on 11/03/2017 3:16:54 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
"I've just provided you with a direct quote from Vatican Radio"

I didn't ask you for a quote from Vatican Radio. I don't care about Vatican radio. I asked you for a quote from the Pope where he used the word "warmongers" as your thread asserts and you haven't done it. Why the hell can't you just acknowledge he didn't say it? Sheesh.

44 posted on 11/03/2017 3:26:04 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: fidelis
Take it up with Vatican Radio. They were the ones who used "warmongers" in their title.

And FYI:

It was only last May (2015), after all, that Pope Francis told a group of schoolchildren visiting the Vatican that the arms trade is the “industry of death.” When a kid asked why so many powerful people don’t want peace, the pope answered simply, “because they live off wars!” Francis explained how people become rich by producing and selling weapons. “And this is why so many people do not want peace. They make more money with the war!”

Pope Francis Condemns the Arms Trade, War Profiteering, and Even the War on Terror

Now try to explain the difference between "industy of death" and the "warmongers", if you can that is.

45 posted on 11/03/2017 3:43:01 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: fidelis; Mrs. Don-o
"Warmonger" was mentioned in not only the title of the News.VA (the Official Vatican Network) article, but it was also spoken in the linked audio file within that article.

Take your complaints up with the Vatican about what words it chooses to throw out.

P.S. Most of this pope's sermons are never published in their full content.

Have you ever wondered why?

46 posted on 11/03/2017 4:05:18 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I’m still waiting for you to admit Francis did not call all soldiers warmongers. Until you have the humility or integrity to acknowledge that, I really can’t see any point in playing along any further.


47 posted on 11/03/2017 4:35:58 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: ebb tide; fidelis
Melanson's headline is clickbait.

What Pope Francis did say is bad enough: one would be foolish to criticize him for what he didn't say.

48 posted on 11/03/2017 4:48:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (There are more things in heaven & on earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Hamlet)
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To: ebb tide

He should put his personal Army on humanitarian mission and pronounce to the world (muslims) that he is not protected by soldiers. Pointy hat pointy head!

I read somewhere about selling something to buy a sword but tools of war/solders this pope don’t understand.


49 posted on 11/03/2017 4:49:23 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: Mrs. Don-o

How do you know what he didn’t say?

The full sermon hasn’t been published in the English language; and the ones that are occasionaliy published are scrubbed.

Yet his “Official Vatican Network” mentioned “warmongers” twice.


50 posted on 11/03/2017 9:04:57 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I suppose that he will be disbanding the Vatican army, no?


51 posted on 11/04/2017 1:07:32 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

While I am sure they are deadly soldiers, they are dressed like something I see on playing cards.

Could they not find less embarrassing uniforms for those guys to wear?


52 posted on 11/04/2017 1:11:19 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom; Stand Watch Listen

Could they not find less embarrassing uniforms for those guys to wear?
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53 posted on 11/04/2017 1:38:35 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord
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To: ebb tide
What you DON'T have, is Pope Francis saying what the headline claims,

"Francis denigrates soldiers, referring to us as "warmongers."

54 posted on 11/04/2017 4:34:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (O Jesus, forgive us our sins...Lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy.)
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To: ebb tide

See, that statement is utter balderdash!

Wars have liberated us from slavery, from communism, from fascism, from tyranny, from brutal dictatorships, from Muslim enslavement.

War can be a good thing when it saves people from worse fates, even though good people, and innocent people die from them.

Casting all war as bad slurs soldiers and makes their sacrifices inconsequential.

I really don’t like this Pope!

Ed


55 posted on 11/06/2017 12:25:08 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: metmom

The uniforms were designed by Michelangelo!


56 posted on 11/06/2017 12:30:08 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

I usually like his work but those do notlook very practical on many fronts.


57 posted on 11/06/2017 9:33:26 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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