Pope Francis blesses a picture on a mobile phone (Getty Images)
Posted on 10/19/2017 7:34:05 PM PDT by ebb tide
He was celebrating 50 years of dialogue with the World Methodist Council
Methodism founder John Wesley brought many people to Christ through prayer and Bible reading, Pope Francis has said.
Speaking with leaders of the World Methodist Council, Pope Francis praised 50 years of dialogue between the Catholic and Methodist churches, Vatican Radio reports.
“We are no longer strangers,” he said, but rather, through our shared Baptism, “members of the household of God”.
Speaking about John Wesley, the 18th-century Anglican clergyman who founded the Methodist movement, Pope Francis said his example converted many people to God.
“We cannot fail to rejoice” when the Holy Spirit works through other Christian denominations, the Pope added, as they “also help us grow closer to the Lord.”
However, he concluded by saying we cannot grow in holiness without “growing in communion”.
“Let us prepare ourselves with humble hope and concrete efforts for that full recognition which will enable us to join one another in the breaking of bread together.”
the Wesleyans won’t be far behind. Francis has gone completely off his rocker.
And that is being very charitable.
Jorge Bergoglio, “Look how humble this pope is, although he is an Argentinean, he called himself Francis and not Jesus II”.
I don’t see as much problem with this as I see praising Luther. It is one thing for someone raised outside of the Church to advance things apart from formal communion with the Church, it is another thing to take a section of the truth from the whole and run with it.
John’s brother Charles wrote some good stuff. Perhaps Pope Francis might incorporate it into the Liturgy some time. Verses 2 and 3 in particular drive home truths that I’m glad to see the Pope implicitly endorse, as they are too often soft-peddled.
1 Lo! He comes, with clouds descending,
once for our salvation slain;
thousand thousand saints attending
swell the triumph of His train.
Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!
God appears on earth to reign.
2 Ev’ry eye shall now behold Him,
robed in dreadful majesty;
those who set at naught and sold Him,
pierced, and nailed Him to the tree,
deeply wailing, deeply wailing,
shall the true Messiah see.
3 Every island, sea, and mountain,
heav’n and earth, shall flee away;
all who hate Him must, confounded,
hear the trump proclaim the day:
Come to judgment! Come to judgment!
Come to judgment, come away!
4 Now redemption, long expected,
see in solemn pomp appear!
And His saints, by men rejected,
coming with Him in the air.
Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!
See the day of God appear!
5 Yea, amen! Let all adore Thee,
high on Thine eternal throne;
Savior, take the pow’r and glory,
claim the kingdom for Thine own:
O come quickly, O come quickly,
Alleluia! Come, Lord, come!
lol
Did you notice the shot where Bergoglio is blessing a photo on a cell phone?
Seems like a topic he might broach now then. :-)
Hey, it keeps him out of trouble.
Funny to me, but when I first read your post I thought it said, “It’s good to hear him finally bring Jews up in conversation.”
Incidentally, of which Jesus was one. I wonder if the Pope would admit that? I’m sure it would be painful for him.
You don't think a cardinals' dubia and a filial correction troubles him?
If you answer, "No"; I agree.
“We Catholics have some — and not some, many — who believe they possess the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil. They do evil. I say this because it is my Church.”
If by “they” he means that the individual believes that he possesses all the truth, then the individual has a problem/
I by “they: he means that the individual believes that the truth subsists within the Catholic Church to which he claims to belong, then someone else would seem to have a problem.
Wesley was one who held the Papacy “ the antichrist”. Of course so didn’t Luther and that hasn’t stopped this demonic antipope.
I know of four sedevacantist traditionalist Dominicans who took last two weeks before last weekend travelling to see Holy Sites in Europe. They said there were not a few in and around these Shrines etc who freely said this monster an antipope. These prompted only by seeing real Catholic garb and the disposition of the four, perhaps that they didn’t accept Novus Ordo. Another thing heard often enough is that Frankenstein’s a satanist. Again, from what little I’ve heard from one of the four travelers, these things basically unsolicited and said in broad daylight in the shadow of great Catholic churches.
The Wesley Methodist joint near here has a real big rainbow sign out front with “Equal Before God”.
They seem to be vying with Unitarians and Episcopalians for most liberal.
Well, "they" implies more than one individual.
Bergoglio went on to state:
“You cannot cancel a whole religion because there is a group or many groups of fundamentalists at certain moments of history.”
I highly suspect Bergolio's definition of "fundamentalist" Catholics is directed towards those traditional, orthodox, pelagian, and rigid Catholics as a whole.
Sadly, John and Charles Wesley wouldn’t recognize the church that grew out of their evangelism.
Well, “they” implies more than one individual.
That said, I wouldn’t bet money on my out being the correct interpretation.
No surprise. John Wesley was Arminian and in Protestantism Arminianism is closer to Roman Catholicism than either Lutheranism or Calvinism.
Nonetheless, John Wesley wrote this about the papacy:
“Romish Papacy, he is, in an emphatical sense, the man of sin.” (John Wesley, Antichrist and His Ten Kingdoms, p. 110.)
Understood. But Bergoglio is also all gung-ho with the Lutherans; even suggesting they may receive Holy Communion at Catholic Masses.
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