[redleghunter]

While I do not believe in the pretrip rapture, but that believers will be resurrected at the end of the Trib, yet these and like churches to teach Bible doctrine overall, and believe in the return of Christ.

I agree. There are variations of end times "timing." The predominant Evangelical view being millennial meaning a literal Kingly rule of Christ on earth for 1,000 years. The differences as you note are in the rapture or harpazo. Is it pre trib, mid trib, pre wrath or post trib/concurrent with the Second Advent of Christ as conquering King.

The view you hold to is what is called the historic millennial view. It was shared by many of the very early church theologians and also in the Didache. That the early church writers were millennial and what was called Chiliasm, the later church deemed heretical. Interesting as some of these early fathers such as Irenaeus were deemed church doctors.

I will add the literal millennial view is not associated with the crack pot time predictors and numerology fads of today.

[daniel1212]

The view you hold to is what is called the historic millennial view. It was shared by many of the very early church theologians and also in the Didache. That the early church writers were millennial and what was called Chiliasm, the later church deemed heretical. Interesting as some of these early fathers such as Irenaeus were deemed church doctors.

For all the professions of Caths that they understand Scripture according ot the "fathers" - which is an error (rather than the weight of Scriptural substantiation) - it is really what their church chooses from among them that is determinitive of Truth.