Posted on 10/04/2017 9:00:29 AM PDT by fwdude
Why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Was the most extensive judgment found anywhere in the Bible outside of the book of Revelation actually for the sin of inhospitality, not homosexuality?
People find what they want in the Bible. If one looks hard enough, he can find "biblical" support for reincarnation, Eastern religions, Jesus as a guru, divorce for any reason, and flying saucers. Every cult of Christianity uses the Bible to validate its claims and so does some of the occult.
It's not surprising, then, that a recent trend in biblical scholarship holds that a careful reading of Genesis in its historical context offers no solid basis to conclude that the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah had anything to do with homosexuality.
(Excerpt) Read more at str.org ...
It wouldn’t. But it was an evil alliance that basically was trying to overthrow God’s order. The term Gibborim is also used in Genesis 6 and with Nimrod. Nimrod began to be a Gibborim, so speculation only, there was something occult going on that such unions fostered.If the men coupled with the male angels then it was spiritual treason on top of all of Sodom’s other sins.
I always wondered what “gomorrah-y” was, but didn’t really want to find out.
I think there’s a difference between “written” versus “compiled”. There were written versions of parts of the Bible before that (hence the ‘scribes’ mentioned in the Bible), but it was sometime before the writings were collected together and made into one standard Bible.
Correct. His line was genetically perfect. Now, the question is where did the nephilim come from after? It appears a second incursion of some sort or perhaps one of Noah’s son’s wives was not perfect in her generations and the gene spread into (perhaps Ham and Canaan’s line)? The giants afterwards are heavily associated with Canaanites.
That’s pretty amazing.
I know for a fact that a LOT of married men in the American culture constantly complain about how much sex they get from their wives. If this article is true, the author is saying Jesus and Jewish law permit him to divorce his wife.
It actually makes sense. Paul said it is better to be single, but if your horny (my translation) you need to marry or it will be an opportunity for sin.
And a man who has a wife that never has sex with him just may go out and have an affair for the same reason a horny man that never marries might do the same.
This is very interesting. Especially his interpretation of the language from a first century viewpoint.
A possibility. I lean toward Genesis 10:8 and Nimrod.
The destruction was by volcano. Our current earth will be destroyed by fire. Was this a preview perhaps?
It says Noah was perfect. It doesn’t expressly say his wife or sons or their wives were though, as you may be pointing out, it is implied. I’m not hostile to the view that one or two the sons’ wives may have been carriers (though some of the other things some people come up with taking this idea out can get a little out there). Giants pop up in the lineage of Canaan and less so in some of his brothers. A few may have popped up in Japheth’s descendants. None are mention in Shem’s.
If you ever find out, you’ll be begging for brain-bleach.
Why Was Miriam Punished So Harshly?
I would suppose if the Sodomites wanted to create a hybrid race, they would have brought their women over to Lot’s house.
People then must have been really different from how we are now - offering up virgin daughters to a rape mob because that’s a lesser evil than offering up visitors, or Lot’s daughters getting their father drunk and lying with him because that’s a lesser evil than allowing their lineage to die out...or waiting for new husbands and a step-mother...
Not so fast!
What appears to be a contemporary clay tablet depicting astronomical observations has been decoded and may give an account of something that passed overhead, hit the earth elsewhere, and the blowback of debris would have been the fire from the sky. Those working with the tablet were able to use the information it gave, which it follows would have had to been of good quality, to reach these conclusions.
So, going with nothing surprises God that rock had been on its way for a very long time, and would have been prepared by Him for that time.
The mistake in the Sodom discussion is in focusing on one particular sin being THAT sin which defiles and condemns. As though everything was just fine until they did THIS one sin, and that led to judgment.
In fact, sin comes in 1000 forms, both in the soul and in behaviors. Like bacteria, all people carry sin around in our hearts, since we are the children of Adam. As societal constraints are lowered over time, people look more like sinners and it gets more obvious. When all of the internal barriers to sin are eroded, sin becomes systemic, and ultimately leads to the last-straw sins, sexual perversion and human sacrifice.
It is then that God drops the hammer.
Right off the bat I think the writer gets the wrong wife. Moses’ wife at the time of the Exodus was of Midian, which were not Cushites.
As for the traditions, well,they also present a pretty glaring error as Moses’ family were from Levi, not Judah. Miriam would NOT have called her family Jews. She might have used either Israelites or Levites, or by Levi’s son ... but she wouldn’t have referenced Judah.
I don’t think they necessarily even knew they were angels. They were undoubtedly handsome men in appearance and Lot, who also didn’t seem to first realize who they were, acted to get them out of the square because he knew his neighbors were not nice at all.
Still, I’ll stick with the view that even he underestimated their wickedness and probably thought once they were under his roof there would be no more problems.
And what did Nimrod do exactly that was making him a Gibborim?
And what did Nimrod do exactly that was making him a Gibborim?
Don’t think it was to create a hybrid race, but rather to garner the power in those relationships.
Eze 16:50
And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
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