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To: alloysteel
Angelo Roncalli, known as John XXIII, ascended to the post in 1958 was perhaps one of the most influential popes in recent times, followed closely by Karol Józef Wojtyła, who became John Paul II in 1978.

Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the current Pope Francis, cannot hope to ever achieve the level of influence of either of these two giants.

"Giants"? Giants of what, modernism?

Pope John XXIII convened the Second Vatican Council, which is now to the go-to source for all that is evil. And Jorge Bergoglio was consecrated a bishop and later elevated to the college of cardinals all under Pope John Paul II's reign.

9 posted on 09/22/2017 10:54:37 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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"Giants"? Giants of what, modernism?

Thank you. Or better known as giants of heresy.

16 posted on 09/22/2017 3:16:14 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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"Giants"? Giants of what, modernism?

Thank you. Or better known as giants of heresy.

17 posted on 09/22/2017 3:16:14 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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