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18-year-old Aussie loses her job for saying ‘it’s OK to vote no’ on same-sex ‘marriage’
LifeSite News ^ | September 20, 2017 | Lisa Bourne

Posted on 09/20/2017 4:37:47 PM PDT by ebb tide

An Australian children’s entertainment company fired a young woman for saying on social media “it’s OK to vote ‘no’” in the country’s current referendum on same-sex “marriage.”

Capital Kids Parties owner Madlin Sims may have violated discrimination laws in firing an 18-year-old because Sims said her former employee’s view amounted to hate speech, The Guardian reported.

The young woman known thus far as Madeline said in various media interviews that she was let go because her Christian view did not allow her to vote yes in Australia’s voluntary postal survey on gay “marriage.” The plebiscite runs from September 12 through November 7.

Sims posted on Facebook that she had “fired a staff member who made it public knowledge that they feel ‘it’s OK to vote no,’” and that she viewed saying so as hate speech. The social media account was inactive at press time.

“Advertising your desire to vote no for [same-sex marriage] is, in my eyes, hate speech,” Sims said.

She said “there were prior conversations had,” so it wasn’t a case of “you’re voting no, you’re fired.”

Sims said having an employee who was “extremely out & proud” about her views on homosexuality was a risk to her customers and equated a “no” vote with being homophobic.

"It's not OK to vote no,” she stated. “It's not OK to be homophobic. This isn't a matter of opinion or even religion." 

Sims’ brother reportedly asked Madeline to take the “it’s OK to say no” message down from Facebook, but Madeline had gotten no word from Capital Kids Parties until she was fired.

The Coalition for Marriage’s Bill Shorten declined to comment on this specific case but said, “People should not be dismissed from their employment for having different views about marriage equality.”

“People’s job security shouldn’t be threatened by that,” he said. “No one should risk losing their job because they are either voting yes or no.”

The Guardian report said the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) Human Rights Commission affirmed it could be illegal to fire an employee or contractor for their religious and political views, along with their sex, gender identity or sexuality.

“You can bring a complaint on that basis,” discrimination commissioner Karen Toohey said. “It’s a decision for the ACT civil and administrative tribunal [to determine].”

Both Sydney University associate professor Belinda Smith and Tim Lyons, research fellow for progressive think-tank Per Capita, said the law protects political and religious views of employees and contractors, irrespective of whether they support or oppose gay “marriage.”

“If religious convictions are a protected attribute – as they are in [the] ACT – then generally it is not permissible to fire someone for those convictions. This could constitute direct discrimination,” Smith said.

She noted, though, that employers “can generally prescribe what workers can and can’t say and do on the job to clients.”

Lyons, also former Australian Council of Trade Unions assistant secretary, said it was “important to note that discrimination law works both ways.” 

Laws banning discrimination based on a person’s religious or political convictions protect both sides, Lyons said.

“As long as the expression of your views isn’t threatening people in the workplace ... and is not hate speech, then clearly you’ve got a right to your views,” he said. “The irony is that people on the right loudly protesting the so-called politically-correct thought police will have their rights protected by those laws as well.”

Saying “it’s OK to vote no” was “a pretty gentle way of stating a view” that would not constitute hate speech or vilification, said Katharine Gelber, a University of Queensland professor and free speech expert.

Any alleged violation of employer policy would hinge on whether an employee or contractor was identified with the employer on their social media account, Gelber said.

“It’s not unusual for employers, particularly in the public service, to have strict guidelines about political issues,” she said. “Employers are increasingly controlling the views of their workers on social media, which could be seen as an overreach.”

A recent poll conducted by international Internet-based market research firm YouGov indicated 59 percent of Australians said they were in favor of changing the law to allow same-sex “marriage,” with saying 33 percent they were not in favor and 9 percent who did not know. A Guardian Essential poll released around the same time had 55 percent favoring legalizing gay “marriage” and 34 percent opposed.


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: australia; corporatliberalism; gaystapotactics; homofascism; homos; homosexualagenda; persecution; ssm; thoughtcrime
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1 posted on 09/20/2017 4:37:47 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The woman who fired her is a filthy leftist thug. I can only hope for the day when the leftist pig will be fired and ruined for expressing her intolerance.


2 posted on 09/20/2017 4:42:00 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: ebb tide

I feel for her but honestly you serve at the pleasure of your employer. Even where I work in the South it’s gay gay gay...but I wouldn’t say anything publicly against my employer.


3 posted on 09/20/2017 4:44:43 PM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: wyowolf
I feel for her but honestly you serve at the pleasure of your employer.

I disagree. One serves to pleasure God.

4 posted on 09/20/2017 4:47:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

To serve God. The idea is to keep living rather than being fed to the lions. Jesus died for your sins. Some times a person needs to keep quiet in order to serve God. Like keep your day job. Serve God during your free time.
Or get fired and hire a lawyer and maybe get a new job.


5 posted on 09/20/2017 5:02:26 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: ebb tide

The Homosexual Agenda can only advance at gunpoint.


6 posted on 09/20/2017 5:06:45 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: Trumpet 1
To serve God. The idea is to keep living rather than being fed to the lions.

That's nuts! The early Christian martyrs choose death by lions rather than apostatizing.

7 posted on 09/20/2017 5:07:31 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Are the management sodomites truly interested in children’s entertainment, or do they really just desire to be entertained by children?


8 posted on 09/20/2017 5:08:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ebb tide

A lot of the sentences didn’t make sense, e.g.

“Capital Kids Parties owner Madlin Sims may have violated discrimination laws in firing an 18-year-old because Sims said her former employee’s view amounted to hate speech, The Guardian reported.”


9 posted on 09/20/2017 5:20:03 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ebb tide

Sue these Satanists into the Stone Age.


10 posted on 09/20/2017 5:21:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: ebb tide

DESPOTISM (1946)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaWSqboZr1w


11 posted on 09/20/2017 5:35:43 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: wyowolf
I wouldn’t say anything publicly against my employer.

She didn't say anything against her employer. She disagreed with a belief of her employer. That's very different. If she'd said, "This company sucks. My boss is a bleeping bleep bleeper!" then yeah, she asked to be fired. However, unless she was presented with a Table of Accepted Opinions when she was hired, then she had every reason to believe that only her work mattered, not her private opinions.

12 posted on 09/20/2017 5:38:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("What comes after diversity is the grim uniformity of Islam." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: ebb tide
"It's not OK to vote no,” she stated. “It's not OK to be homophobic. This isn't a matter of opinion or even religion."

It's exactly an opinion, you idiot.

13 posted on 09/20/2017 5:44:27 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

I wonder when “conservatives” are going to stop saying, “I don’t care what homosexuals do in private, but ...”. All there is, is BUT ...!


14 posted on 09/20/2017 5:54:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("What comes after diversity is the grim uniformity of Islam." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Tax-chick

I heard somewhere that *Anything you say before “but” doesn’t mean anything.*


15 posted on 09/20/2017 5:58:06 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

Yes, like, “I believe in free speech, but ...,” or “I didn’t exactly hit Frank with a brick, but ...”


16 posted on 09/20/2017 6:00:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("What comes after diversity is the grim uniformity of Islam." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: metmom

Although, on reflection, in this case it’s more like the opposite: “I don’t care what homosexuals do in private, AND I don’t really care that all our Constitutional rights are being abrogated to make them happy.” So in this case, it’s what comes after the “but.”


17 posted on 09/20/2017 6:02:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("What comes after diversity is the grim uniformity of Islam." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: ebb tide
Childrens entertainer Madlin Sims

I'm not making this up you know.

18 posted on 09/20/2017 6:04:30 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Winter is coming)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Jesus cannot come back soon enough.

The more I read, the more I find myself hoping those predicting *the end of the world* on Sat are right.


19 posted on 09/20/2017 6:08:00 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: wyowolf

How did she speak of her employer? Is her employer running the vote? It’s about a public referendum. So, she got fired for nothing related to her job.


20 posted on 09/20/2017 6:09:05 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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