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To: ealgeone; Ezekiel

The Revelation 12 signs have taken place, so we are still in the Book of the Revelation. We are still in the 40 days after the Eclipse as in the Sign of Noah. That ends, interestingly enough, on Yom Kippur where they do blow the Shofar.

Identifying the Church as “the daily” in Daniel 12:11 was a mistake. However, given the way the world has gone crazy after that day it appears that some restraining factor has been taken away.

Ezekiel provided this analysis in another thread:

We can examine the Hebrew word “daily” to see how it is used elsewhere in scripture. Daily sacrifice (hattamid) is used 24 times: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/hattamid_8548.htm . How many times does the word refer to daily sacrifices? Take a guess. ALL OF THEM! Bread, grain, oil, drink, meat, showbread are all connected throughout Numbers and Nehemiah where the word is used in addition to Daniel.

The word “daily” in the Daniel passages, like all other places in the Bible, is ALWAYS used of the daily or continual sacrifice in the holy place. It is NEVER used to refer to something else.

I don’t have much in common with Sub’s theology or interpretations, but in Daniel is only where tamid is used as a stand alone definite noun, *the* tamid. The always/continual/perpetual [thing]. It is not used to modify any type of sacrifices or anything else. In all those other cases, the hei prefix is the grammar form for tamid being used as a modifier.

The one place in Daniel where ha-tamid is a modifier is in verse 8:13: ad matai hehazon hatamid, “until when [is] the daily vision”, or “until when [is] the vision of the tamid”.

Now people can assume that because it is used typically as a modifier for sacrifices, that ha-tamid also means the exact same in the book of Daniel. All info needs to go into the hopper for consideration. Daniel’s use is different than the others, that’s just a fact. That doesn’t mean people can be free and loose with their own meanings though. It simply is what it is, something that is always/perpetual/continual/ does-not-change. And it will be removed/cast off/rejected or what have you.

An example of where we see this type of action, is in the wholesale rejection of truth that pervades society in some pretty grotesque forms (”transgender”, the denial of biological reality). Truth by nature does not change, regardless of who plays Creator in order to invent his own reality.

It’s what’s in a person’s heart, and *that* “tamid” is in a person’s heart.

Just check out the word lev (lamed bet), “heart”. The letters of the word spelled out are:

lamed mem dalet, bet yud tav.

The revealed letters are lamed bet which is lev; the concealed letters spell tamid.

Somebody out there is bound to appreciate that bit of data.
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I responded with:
I read somewhere that the last letter of the Hebrew Bible was lamed, so that Elohim was pointing to what it meant to be “after His own heart”.
I just checked to make sure, and was surprised to see that the last verse of 2 Chronicles 36 is from Cyrus’ decree to rebuild the temple. The last sentence is translated as “Whoever is among you of all his people, the Lord his God be with him, and let him go up.”
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And he came back with:

Yes. It is also the last letter of the Torah. The first letter is bet, so either way, the Torah of Moses or the full Tanakh is bookended by lamed bet, the heart.
There is much written about this.
The simple but very deep concept is that every letter and word within the Torah as well as the Hebrew Bible is *contained within the heart*.
To expand that into the NT, the last letter is the Greek nu in Amen, which is spelled nun vav in Hebrew.
So to be consistent, the first letter in Gen 1:1 spelled as a word is bet (bet yud tav), and the last in Rev is the Greek nu, spelled nun vav.
Together this spells beitenu, our home.
Home is where the heart is. It should be in the truth, because that does not change.
Thus on one level, the word tamid (the letters contained inside of the lev, heart) is a miniature little world representing every word in the Tanakh.
And you can see that truth has been rejected and cut out from the hearts of men. The imagery of the “Mother” movie shows that Hollyweird taps into the spiritual realms.
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So, to me, it is more likely that the “tamid” is, as Ezekiel says, “a miniature little world representing every word in the Tanakh” and Abba Father YHWH took it away from Mankind on Tishrei 1, 5778.

My friend, Charlie Garrett, says that every dispensation or age is designed to teach mankind that they can’t get along without Elohim no matter what. The Tribulation Age seems to be an Age of Law without the Law. So taking away the Law and the Prophets in the early stages would make sense. The timeline still makes sense. We have simply misread the playbill. So let’s take some time to look at what we really know about the playbill before we toss out the timeline as start over.

So if you want to count coup, then be my guest, but you might want to make sure you are going about your Father’s business.


55 posted on 09/25/2017 7:51:52 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: SubMareener

The day you predicted has come and gone. No rapture. No Second Coming. You are a false prophet. Admit it.


56 posted on 09/25/2017 7:53:45 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: SubMareener
To be clear with the quotes, this was not my writing but another person's I was responding to:

We can examine the Hebrew word “daily” to see how it is used elsewhere in scripture. Daily sacrifice (hattamid) is used 24 times: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/hattamid_8548.htm . How many times does the word refer to daily sacrifices? Take a guess. ALL OF THEM! Bread, grain, oil, drink, meat, showbread are all connected throughout Numbers and Nehemiah where the word is used in addition to Daniel.

The word “daily” in the Daniel passages, like all other places in the Bible, is ALWAYS used of the daily or continual sacrifice in the holy place. It is NEVER used to refer to something else.

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The truth never changes. Which sheds some light on the problem with the "laws of the Medes and the Persians", which "altereth not". Ensnared by their own definition of truth. Or why Achashverosh had to supersede/trump his own decree, the one that Haman had paid for with 10,000 talents. Daniel tossed into the lion's den, same issue.

The establishment is no different today. It thinks that once its decrees go out, they are settled law, settled science, and/or settled doctrine.

Compare to a pair of scissors, because once the scissors have spoken, there's nothing more to say.

However,

The rock beats the scissors:

A player who decides to play rock will beat another player who has chosen scissors ("rock crushes" — or sometimes "blunts" — scissors"), but will lose to one who has played paper ("paper covers rock"); a play of paper will lose to a play of scissors ("scissors cut paper").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock%E2%80%93paper%E2%80%93scissors

62 posted on 09/25/2017 11:42:41 AM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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