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To: pastorbillrandles

Again, I appreciate your reply. When you say, “the answer is proof that the questions were not the same...,” please permit me ask you further.

1. Jesus first used the term “these things” in Mt. 23.36, when he pronounced judgment on his generation of Jews in vindication of the martyrs.

2. He then used it in Mt. 24.2 to describe the destruction of the temple.

3. The disciples used it twice in their questions for a TIME and A SIGN when “these things” were going to be fulfilled.

4. Jesus used it in Mt. 24.6 when he said, “THESE THINGS
must needs come to pass, but the end is not yet.” Wasn’t he still using the term to describe the coming judgment on his generation of Jews?

5. Mt. 24.8 - “THESE THINGS are the beginning of travail” - again, isn’t this the same subject he introduced and the disciples asked for a TIME and SIGN of?

6. Mt. 24.33 - “when ye see ALL THESE THINGS, know he is nigh, even at the doors?” - Isn’t he still talking about the same things?

7. Mt. 24.34 - “This generation shall not pass away, until ALL THESE THINGS” be accomplished.”

Why doesn’t the expression “these things” apply to the destruction of the temple, bringing an end to the Mosaic age, all the way through this chapter? And as Jesus said, all of it was going to be fulfilled in his generation.

Thanks again for reading and considering.


7 posted on 09/12/2017 7:12:33 PM PDT by FNU LNU (Nothing runs like a Deere, nothing smells like a john)
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To: FNU LNU

Thanks for the feedback,I appreciate your point. The problem is that not all of “these things”occurred in 70 Ad,including the final confession of Israel’s national sin, something slated for the end of this present age,see Zechariah 12:1-12
This is why I believe that. The scope of Jesus, answer extends all the way to this present day. also the “end of the age” does not refer to the end of the Mosaic law, rather it refers to the eschatology, the end of Satan,s reign on this earth, 2 Cor 4:1-4 and the dawning of the reign of Messiah on earth. There is an event in recent history which marked the sign of the end of the Age,which I will discuss shortly( WW one and its aftermath)


8 posted on 09/12/2017 10:48:41 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (ore and rebuild Jerusalem)
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