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To: daniel1212
. . . self ID Caths abound with dissent from official teaching, while a lot of Baptists are liberal.

Yes, but the implications of baptism are quite different. Baptists do not include infants as Biblical candidates for water baptism. Paedobaptism is a feature of the churches using some form of The Apostles Creed as a statement of faith. The old Roman creed did not include belief in catholicism, while the present form does. Catholicism thus includes not only Romanists, but Anglicans, Episcopals, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, etc who also subscribe to the Apostles Creed. That creed is never cited in any Baptist assembly because of its acceptance and submission to government external to the local assembly, AFIK.

But thanks for your note, which is quite correct as it stands.

47 posted on 09/08/2017 1:31:14 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
Catholicism thus includes not only Romanists, but Anglicans, Episcopals, Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, etc

Those are to some degree Catholic as regards her distinctives, never having come out of Babylon as much as we should, and they also tend to be more liberal than evangelicals.

who also subscribe to the Apostles Creed

I think you have this confused with the Nicene Creed which mentions baptism for the forgiveness of sins, which the Apostles Creed does not, while "catholic" should be understood as the universal body of Christ:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ, God's only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
and he will come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

49 posted on 09/08/2017 2:04:47 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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