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To: Mad Dawg
Okay, I'm weary.

I was too

As far as I can tell, the collection of poltroons, buffoons, and luxuriously corrupt imcomptetents in high places is just evidence that God is keeping the Catholic Church afloat, because it's a good bet the skills, wisdom, or sanctity of the folks in management couldn't do it unassisted.

This is certainly not the typical RC defense, but it is actually a better and honest one, and yet even Pilate could have no power except it were given him from above, and God has His purposes in even allowing Islam to continue. For as with the devil God allows false prophets in order to test the people, to prove them, whether they will seek what is right, and thus the Lord.

And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel; and he said, Because that this people hath transgressed my covenant which I commanded their fathers, and have not hearkened unto my voice; I also will not henceforth drive out any from before them of the nations which Joshua left when he died: That through them I may prove Israel, whether they will keep the way of the Lord to walk therein, as their fathers did keep it, or not. Therefore the Lord left those nations, without driving them out hastily; neither delivered he them into the hand of Joshua. (Judges 2:20-23)

While Catholicism has always retained salvific Truths whereby a remnant of broken hearts and contrite spirits could be redeemed, for the Lord saved such, (Psalm 34:18) yet these are in the midst of a mass of traditions of men, which Catholic distinctives are manifestly not seen in the inspired record of what the NT church believed , and overall foster confidence in the system and one's own merits for salvation.

Thus Catholicism is an admixture of Teddy K Catholics to SSPV or at least SSPX-type traditionalists, with a remnant that lays hold on Christ for salvation to save them on His account as damned and morally destitute sinners. And which is how I came to Christ as a Catholic at age 25, thanks be to God,after being raised devout, and thus realized a hunger to know how to obey God from the Scriptures, with help then coming much from evangelical radio .

At that time I found some signs of regeneration/life and fellowship in Catholic Charismatic meetings, but it was in conservative evangelicalism that this was far more realized, with doctrine that results in this being basically sound.

Certainly in what is called Christianity only a relative remnant will be saved. rejecting both false christs as well as inert and impenitent faith in the Lord Jesus, which does not effect characteristic fruit in heart and deed, and contrite repentance when convicted of the contrary (which i am ).

But that souls need a day of salvation of true repentant faith in the risen Lord Jesus to save them by His sinless shed blood as lost sinners is militated against by both Prot "easy believism" coaxing sinner's prayers out of souls that are not convicted of their need for such, and assurance based on fruitless profession, as well as a system that pronounces them to be children of God already due to some sprinkling as infants, and of meriting salvation by ritual sacramentally dispensed grace, and with final salvation thru purgatorial atonement and purification, commencing at death, making them good enough to be with God, with early release obtained by indulgences.

One can go about blaming the poor condition of Catholicism as being due to being "poorly catechised," while in reality most Catholics get the message that is effectually conveyed, which is that The Church will see them thru glory however nominal they be.

Only among very few Catholics of simple humble contrite faith (as you) have I found some fellowship of the Spirit (Phil. 2:1) in Christ, while instead what we see is devout Catholics incessantly promoting and defending their church and attacking those who dare challenge their assertions, manifesting their elitist "One True Church" is their security.

In response, I am not here to defend a particular church but a faith by which one realizes the washing of regeneration, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9; Titus 3:5) and thus a living fellowship with the Lord Jesus and obedience to His word , which shared conversion and relationship and esteem for His word is the basis for evangelical fellowship.

164 posted on 09/03/2017 6:33:15 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: daniel1212
Actually, it's a vigorous expression of an apology already traditional by the time of Dante.
165 posted on 09/03/2017 8:40:29 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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