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Posted on 08/28/2017 3:39:09 PM PDT by NYer
Exactly.
However, the ancient churches, Rome included, were founded by Apostles. (Rome, by Peter and Paul; Alexandria, by Mark; the Byzantine Church is descended from the Church of Jerusalem; the churches of Iraq and India were founded by Thomas, etc.)
Roman Catholics know a lot....the problem is so much of what they know is wrong.
A competing theory promotes Peter as the carrier of the gospel to Rome. The mysterious reference in 12:17 (Peter went to another place) opens the door to speculation that Rome was the destination.57 Later church tradition asserts that Peters ministry as bishop of Rome spanned 25 years. While the biblical evidence rules out a continuous presence in Rome, it is surmised that Peter could have founded the church in A.D. 42 and then continued his leadership over the church even when in other locations.58 Finally, Rom 15:20-24 could contain an allusion to Peters ministry to the Romans, which dissuaded Paul from focusing his outreach in Rome.59
A closer look at earlier Patristic testimony lessens the probability that Peter established the church at Rome. In the mid-second century A.D., Irenaeus envisions a founding role for Peter alongside Paul: Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, laying the foundations of the Church.60 Soon after, he refers to the universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul.61 Immediately, the problem surfaces that in comparing Peter to Paul, who arrived to Rome relatively late in the churchs history, Peters unique founding influence in the church becomes less likely.62 More likely, relatively obscure Christians made contributions to the churchs establishment, leading to a vital and growing community. As a parallel, Christianity surfaces in places like Cyprus and Cyrene without any apparent missionary journey by noted apostles (Acts 11:20).
https://bible.org/article/origins-church-rome
Well, at least since around the 300s.
Ha Ha.
Yet you posted what you did.
Hope you dont mind, but if you do, stick your concerns up your arse.
Proving again it is usually the Roman Catholic who resorts to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them.
It seems to be a consistent pattern with Roman Catholics.
A consistent pattern is you being an anti Catholic troll.
Everyone, quit feeding him.
Proving again it is usually the Roman Catholic who resorts to the personal attack and/or profanity when the argument goes against them.
Roman Catholics do not like when things they've been taught are shown to be incorrect.
Roman Catholics do not like when things they've been taught are shown to be incorrect.
You once demanded that I never post to you again and you cc'd the moderator. You can dish it out, but you can't take it.
You were called out because your post was of a threatening nature which was followed up with an equally disturbing freepmail.
I have a feeling if we'd been in a bar we wouldn't have been having a pleasant conversation.
I still have the freepmail btw. We're asked not to publish those but I can provide to any interested parties.
I don't mind the debate. I think it's good we have a forum to discuss these issues.
However, I notice the Roman Catholic doesn't like to be challenged. Some Roman Catholics think the forum is their own private internet blog site on which they can post whatever they want without being challenged.
You are a good example of that. How many times have you wrongly accused me of "stalking" you? Only to have many of those posts pulled.
You continue to call me a troll....only to have those often pulled.
I've had several threads I've started be asked to be pulled by Roman Catholics simply because they didn't like the topic. Sorta like the Left and Antifa does. They attempt to shut down the conversation.
So no....it is Roman Catholicism that doesn't like the debate.
You feel threatened?
I think they are after you ebb, you still at 1060 west Addison?
I see you're starting your juvenile antics again.
That’s who I’m including when I say “all” caucus violators should be removed by moderator. Friendly FReeper G-F, maybe inadvertently, did the initial violation by referencing “Disciples of Christ” in a caucus discussion.
Anyway, I just got done re-reading Genesis and Exodus—Exodus being the book where the Isrealites leave Egypt after the plagues and all.
Well, once they're well along, having received the Ten Commandments, the specifications for the Tabernacle and teh Ark of the Covenant are issued to Moses by YHWH.
Boy, talk about "fancy schmancy"! The Catholic Church has nothing on those Israelites and their Tabernacle, including Aaron's priestly garb. It truly must have been a sight to behold—especially for a portable structure that had to be disassembled, and then reassembled at every new destination...
Yes, inadvertently.
Yep...and Roman Catholicism continues to try and recreate the OT system of worship.
What do y’all say about building some new, great alters?
JoMa
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