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Posted on 08/28/2017 3:39:09 PM PDT by NYer
Catholic ping!
I remember my surprise and shock after returning to my Catholic College’s chapel and seeing the beautiful old altar gone. In its place was a simple altar like the one in the Protestant church (Disciples of Christ) I grew up in.
It was one of the post-Vatican II ‘improvements’ one of the young priests made, over the objections, so I was told, by one of the older priests there. The young priest and a group of seminarians tore out the old altar, threw it onto a college truck and dumped it in the trash dump area and burned it.
I hated when the altar was turned around. But at least it was the same altar. I really dislike the one that look like folding tables.
I guess you would have to say this is a case of not knowing which side your bread is buttered on.
... not that I know anything about it!
I am more concerned about the lack of the faithful attending Mass and the Sacraments. It is only 30% in our parish and less in the diocese.
Do we really love God and our neighbor or just ourselves?
If changing the buildings Roman Catholics worship in has caused a decline in Roman Catholicism....that points to a very, very weak faith...if any faith at all.
Just like the original Apostles had.
If the St Peter altar was in the US instead of Vatican City, I expect that BLM and Antifa scumbags would have broken the heads off all of the statues and knocked them down off their pedestals, since they represent the debbil white man who oppressed da black man in the deep, dark past. And the RINOs would stand by and watch them do it.
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>>In its place was a simple altar like the one in the Protestant church (Disciples of Christ) I grew up in.<<
Another RC poster mentioned another denomination.
>>I am more concerned about the lack of the faithful attending Mass and the Sacraments. It is only 30% in our parish and less in the diocese.
Fruit of the VC-II debacle, no doubt about it! Catholics do not want to attend Protestant-inspired worship services in Protestant-inspired worship spaces.
Having the tabernacle in the center just hushes the congregation. When it’s moved to the side or hidden, the parishioners start treating the church like a meeting hall. It becomes like other denominations.
Love an old fashioned Catholic church that has not been messed with and I search for them wherever I live.
Because Paul and Peter and the other disciples had the same service Roman Catholics do today.....oh, wait...they didn't.
I guess you have a problem with how David and Israel worshipped before God.
5Meanwhile, David and all the house of Israel were celebrating before the LORD with all kinds of instruments made of fir wood, and with lyres, harps, tambourines, castanets and cymbals. 2 Samuel 6:5 NASB
There is no "order of worship" recorded in the NT. However, the ancient churches, Rome included, were founded by Apostles. (Rome, by Peter and Paul; Alexandria, by Mark; the Byzantine Church is descended from the Church of Jerusalem; the churches of Iraq and India were founded by Thomas, etc.)
Which of them has an evangelical "sermon sandwich" for a service? That's right: none of them.
We do have an "order of worship" from the second century in the writings of Hippolytus of Rome. It's recognizable to Catholics as the Mass.
So the Catholic Church was doing it wrong for 1960 years?
Catholics need to realize that the focus of Vatican II was fundamentally wrong rather than just focusing on the liturgical issues that resulted from it.
So the "Old" Mass had "faults". Bzzt. Another wrong answer.
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