Posted on 08/24/2017 12:04:15 PM PDT by amessenger4god
You are correct about conjugating the verb meaning “to be”.
It is basic in the romantic languages and an early teaching in French. What little French I got, that part was easy.
Then I am the only person who knows the difference between is and am
Explain the difference between "This is my Body" and 'This is my Son"
[The man of sin has not yet stood on the mercy seat of the Ark, declaring himself to be God.]
That is correct, though I recommend being careful with dates, FRiend.
Did you happen to catch this one particular thread I posted, though? (FWIW). I thought it was kinda interesting but I’m not setting a date. Just really struck me.
International Day of Peace 21 September (Those NWO Folks at the United Nations)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3577476/posts
The most important difference between those statements that we were told do the one thing in order to remember Him.
And you explain the difference between “this is my body” and “God is a consuming fire.”
Legally speaking every US tax payer is a Catholic... check out how much money US tax payers fund Catholic charities.
Perhaps you need a refresher course in the English language.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/metaphor/
A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes an object or action in a way that isnt literally true, but helps explain an idea or make a comparison.
Here are the basics:
A metaphor states that one thing is another thing
It equates those two things not because they actually are the same, but for the sake of comparison or symbolism
If you take a metaphor literally, it will probably sound very strange (are there actually any sheep, black or otherwise, in your family?)
Metaphors are used in poetry, literature, and anytime someone wants to add some color to their language
Remember to check your knowledge at the end with our Metaphor vs. Simile Quiz.
Don't forget, Jesus also said He was the bread, the door, and the vine. He didn't say represent.
He said, "I AM the door", "I AM the true vine", "I AM the bread". <
So explain to me how Catholics don't believe that Jesus is made from bread dough, wood, or plant material.
Are you still calling your priests *Father*?
After Jesus' whole discourse in John 6 He goes on to say this. He tells us right here that they are not meant literally.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
Why don't you believe Him?
Well, did He or didn't He? You're contradicting yourself right here.
And you expect to have credibility?
When you don't want to listen to the clear words of Scripture.
You're really reaching now.
. . . and others:
Don’t mean to sound more-literary-than-thou, so forgive me if I do, but in literature “is” often a stronger way of saying “is like.” In the age of Shakespeare, people did not get so technical about such things but just read what the author meant them to understand. It’s common sense, is all. As long as the essential meaning is clear, we don’t need to parse everything to death.
Such disputes actually overcomplicate the meaning of what we know to be true and all agree on, and thus divert our attention from the truth we should be paying attention to.
Jesus never turned bread into his body...He said he 'is' the bread, not that he will become the bread...Your Church added that so you guys would think Jesus changed something and that your priest somehow had the power to do the same thing...Didn't happen...
Jesus dropped some bread on a table and said, 'this is my flesh, eat it'...He didn't turn bread into his flesh...The fact of the matter is the bread wasn't Jesus...Jesus was the bread...If what you hope would have happened, even then no bread turned into flesh...It was flesh that was bread...And not only can no one in your religion turn bread into Jesus' flesh, they certainly can't turn Jesus flesh into bread...
Show me one example where IS does not mean IS. Not 'is like' or Am. Where does Is does not mean Is?
So that's it...'IS' is the clincher...
Joh_10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
While that's true, the same is said about we believers...I have a feeling 'is' is used in a spiritual sense...
Joh_10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
As you can see, John had the same issue...
2Co_11:10 As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
And Paul as well...
Exo_9:3 Behold, the hand of the LORD is upon thy cattle which is in the field, upon the horses, upon the asses, upon the camels, upon the oxen, and upon the sheep: there shall be a very grievous murrain.
Yep...That the physical hand of God...'IS' says so...
2Sa_22:2 And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;
The Lord is every Christian's rock, but he ain't limestone...
Psa_121:5 The LORD is thy keeper: the LORD is thy shade upon thy right hand.
How many of these will it take to convince you that you are wrong??? I have a feeling that no amount of evidence will sway you...
Psa_84:11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
God is physically a sun, and a shade...
That's just barely touching the surface of how the word 'is' is not always used literally in the scriptures...So your 'IS' argument holds no water whatsoever...
Really??? You are confusing the physical with the spiritual.
Ya think??? And you're not???
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Yeshua set the “date:” The day of which no man knows the day or the our. There is only one day on Yehova’s calendar that matches that condition: Tishri 1. Every feast day but Trumpets is known long in advance, but Trumpets, being on the new moon cannot be known until it happens, yet it is by definition Tishri 1.
Its only a problem for those that want something that is not scriptural.
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Seems that 'am' doesn't count...But when it's 'IS', that's the game changer...
I clicked onto this thread hoping to read some intelligent discussions about end times prophecy...and all I got was the meaning of “is”.
No...It's just that you and other Catholics are not able to discern language and reality...
When you read that scripture and the few others similar to it by themselves, it's easy to jump to the conclusion that Jesus may have been speaking of physical flesh...But when you read the rest of the New Testament and compare spiritual things with spiritual (yes the bible is a spiritual book) you find that is an impossibility...
Exactly.
When I was a Catholic, I constructed a justification for the bread being the body and the wine being the blood, and that was that when the priest says he is giving both up for you, in the role of Jesus, he is, in a way, because he has given up his body (his sexual life, his family), and his blood because he is willing to die for the faith. And certainly Jesus did both of those.
Insofar as the priest believes both those things about what he has done and is willing to do, there is a certain mystical truth to the statements. They are not literal physical changes. The Church is full of mysticism, and a mystery is not something that is untrue but something that can be resolved and understood until it is no longer a mystery. My Catholic friends like and accept this idea.
To repeat what I said upthread, we don’t need to argue about these things. Do we repent, and have a firm purpose of amendment, whether Catholic or Protestant? I’d wager that that is what he cares about, whether we confess to a priest or directly to him.
Here are some real clear words:
“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
—John 3:3
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
—Ephesians 2:8-9
“By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.”
—Hebrews 10:10-14
“And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”
—Romans 11:6
Work through the real clear teaching of those passages, being mindful to compare them to Romanist doctrine.
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