[BlueDragon]

It is plain to me that you do not understand what Luther was saying. Perhaps better put -- what he was driving at -- why he was saying it -- what he was placing as being of greater importance over and above letter-of-law.

Badly out-of-context mangled quotes (as exampled in what you attributed to being from Martin Lurther) serve no one well.

But if you simply insist upon relying upon one's own ability to sufficiently (and that means PERFECTLY without slightest error whatsoever -- including even in one's own heart) "keep" the OT commandments as given unto Moses, what use is the blood of Jesus ---then?

In Eucharist (thanksgiving) observations of "the Lord's Supper", what is it that would be consumed? Would it be Jesus's own actual flesh and blood -- as 4th Lateran and Council of Trent would have it?

Describe for me what the word "actual" means to you from those contexts.

Please -- no one else either respond to this post unless answering the question of what the word "actual" means to themselves in relation to those two Western Church (only!) Councils...

[ebb tide]

See post #106.

P.S. Thanks for your freepmail to me.

[ealgeone]

He’s already been corrected about this on this very thread....but, like poorly trained parrot, he continues to repeat using his very limited vocabulary.