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To: HarleyD

**If you don’t understand the Trinity, then you will never understand how our Lord Jesus was fully God and fully Man. You can’t understand how Christ could be “Wonderful Father” (fully God) while being “my servant” (fully Man). It is the same dilemma the Pharisees had when our Lord Jesus quoted the scripture:**

It’s actually the trinitarians that have the same dilemma as the Pharisees: both can’t grasp that the Father is in Christ. The Gospel of John has so much testimony to the fact that the Father is in the Son, and the Son in the Father.

How could David call his descendent, his Lord? Simple. “God hath MADE this same Jesus” (David’s offspring)... both (David’s) Lord and Christ.” Acts 2:36

That same Peter said: “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

**While our Lord Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:32-33).**

No he didn’t, the Pharisees tried to accuse him of claiming to be God, when he had just told them (in vs 32), “Many good works have I shewed you from my Father..”.

The Pharisees wrongly interpreted that, accusing the Son of saying that he is another person of God.

Trinitarianism’s interpretation of Isaiah 9:6 creates confusion. That’s because when stating that the Son, as a separate and distinct, but coequal person of God, he is also the everlasting Father. Then we are to still believe that there is a separate and distinct, coequal person of God, called God the Father. Are threre two Fathers? Are they co-Fathers?

Paul testifies of the omnipresence of the Father quite explicitly in Ephesians 4:6: “One God and Father of all, who is ABOVE all, and THROUGH all, and IN you all.”

I pray, “That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him.” Eph. 1:17


257 posted on 08/19/2017 10:58:07 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel
HD-**While our Lord Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:32-33).**

Z-No he didn’t, the Pharisees tried to accuse him of claiming to be God

Luk 5:20  And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.  Luk 5:21  And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone? 

Joh 8:56-59  Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?   Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.   Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. 

Joh 10:33  The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 

Joh 16:27-28  For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. 

There isn't anything more I can say except that you are terribly wrong in denying Christ as God. I'm leaving for vacation but there really isn't anything more to say.

258 posted on 08/20/2017 3:37:36 AM PDT by HarleyD (Ecc 10:2 A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left.)
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