**Boatbum did a most excellent job in his post on Isaiah**
Unless boatbums has gone trans, I think he is a she.
Well, actually boatbums simply pasted the passage from Isaiah 42:1-7. The matter was not addressed, especially vs 5, which shows that the creator is the one doing all the talking. He tells about his ‘servant’ for the first 4 verses, speaks of himself as the creator in vs 5, and speaks directly to his ‘servant’ in vss 6 and 7.
God the Father is the creator. He is in Christ. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. John the Baptist said that:
“For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God given not the Spirit by measure unto him. For the Father loveth the Son, and hath given ALL things into his hand.” John 3:34,35
God the Father gave the Spirit unto the Son. God the Father gave ALL things unto the Son.
By trinitarian reasoning, how can one receive something he already has, such as: the ability to create?
By the same reasoning: the Son has been given all things, and therefore the Father might as well be in a spiritual coma.
**7) Do you believe all the fullness of God the Father dwells in our Lord Jesus?**
Yes. And if you believe that as well, you’ve just answered your questions 1 through 6. It’s the foundational fact I’ve been speaking of nearly the whole time on this thread.
**8) Do you believe that the only way to God is through the cross of our Lord Jesus dead and resurrection, asking forgiveness for our sinful transgressions?**
Yes. But that description is condensed. If you want to get detailed, we can go to the Lord’s detailed commissions to his disciples, and follow up on how they obeyed.
**9) Do you believe our Lord Jesus, and only He alone, will present us holy and blameless before God the Father.**
So in the trinitarian view, the Holy Spirit doesn’t get name recognition in there somewhere?
And Christ presents the church to himself (Eph. 5:27).
“Knowing that HE which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us BY Jesus, and shall present us with you.” 2Cor. 4:14
Where is the Father not at?
**..Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.**
Tradition of men: the phrase “God the Son”. Even a grammar teacher knows that that phrase is not saying the same thing as the phrase, “the Son of God”.
I should know that. She has been a faithful witness on many posts.
Well, actually boatbums simply pasted the passage from Isaiah 42:1-7. The matter was not addressed, especially vs 5, which shows that the creator is the one doing all the talking.
If you don't understand the Trinity, then you will never understand how our Lord Jesus was fully God and fully Man. You can't understand how Christ could be "Wonderful Father" (fully God) while being "my servant" (fully Man). It is the same dilemma the Pharisees had when our Lord Jesus quoted the scripture:
How could Christ be a son of David yet be God? The Pharisees had no answers because they couldn't understand the essence of God.
By trinitarian reasoning, how can one receive something he already has, such as: the ability to create?
See above. You are confusing the Trinity with the dual nature of Christ being fully God and fully Man. These are completely two different topics. While our Lord Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:32-33), He also liked to refer to Himself as "the Son of Man". This is why you seem to have difficulties understanding Isaiah 42:1-7. He was created as a man, yet He is our Wonderful Father.
If you go back to some earlier posts, I cautioned that it is dangerous to speculate about the working of the Trinity. It is the same with trying to understand the dual nature of Christ as God and man. We just accept it as it is in scripture. There are just some mysteries we're not meant to understand (Deut 29:29). However, understanding the Trinity makes it a lot easier to understand how Christ could be fully God and fully man. I'm not sure if you didn't believe in the Trinity, how exactly you could understand fully God/man concept.
**7) ...
I see that you got 2 out of 9 correct. That isn't a very good record and these questions have nothing to do with the Trinity. They are statements of the truth. Paul warns and cautions us that if we cannot accept these truths, we have moved into heretical beliefs.
So in the trinitarian view, the Holy Spirit doesn’t get name recognition in there somewhere?
It is the Holy Spirit who testifies of Christ.
The problem you have is that you are constantly dividing the Trinity instead of letting them flow together. If you glorify Christ, you glorify God the Father and you can only glorify Christ through the Holy Spirit. God is ONE and when you glorify one you glorify all.
In the middle of the verse, Jesus said: “If it be possible, take this cup from me...”. That is one of the rare examples of the man’s will trying to have a say.
Agree. It just shows how much our Lord Jesus gave up to go to the cross for us submitting Himself even unto death.