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To: Zuriel; Bobsvainbabblings

I would suggest a prayerful, objective and thoughtful study of the workings of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. This belief was deemed heresy by orthodox Christianity and condemned by the apostle John. Whenever I’m outside the norm of the majority of Christian thinking, which happens from time to time, I become a bit nervous.


131 posted on 08/15/2017 1:22:46 PM PDT by HarleyD (Ecc 10:2 A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left.)
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To: HarleyD

Your reply would have been as good of a point, I suppose, to cease this discussion,....except for this line:

**This belief was deemed heresy by orthodox Christianity and condemned by the apostle John.**

“orthodox” Christianity has no right to create inaccurate definitions of the Son of God that aren’t in the scriptures (sola scriptura, anyone?). And a ‘majority’ isn’t a guarantee of truth. Jesus Christ said “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, that leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” Matt. 7:14

And speaking of John.....
Let’s just dive right in....

1John 1:1 testifies “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard,...seen,..looked upon,..handled, of the Word of life. (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)”

Remember my previous post contained two verses from the book of John where the Son said his life came from? Let’s go back there for more.....

How can the Word be called God? Answer: God the Father is in the Son, and the Son is in the Father:

“No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.” John 1:18

How did the Son of God declare the invisible God? The Father prepared him a body. And the Father is in the Son. (Care to prove that not to be true?)

John 1:4 “In him was life...”.
Where did the life come from? The Son says the life is from his Father.

(If I’m sounding repetitive, remember that Jesus Christ made those claims several times.)

1John 4:12 “No man hath seen God at any time”. That’s twice that John (under inspiration) made that statement.

Paul said, in Col. 1:15, “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature.”

In his first epistle, John uses the phrase “the Son of God” eight times. The phrase “God the Son” is not to be found.

I will head down the home stretch with this from 1John 5:20:

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life”.

Did you see God the Father in that verse? Here’s an obvious clue from John 17:1-3...

“..Father, the hour is come, glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.”


132 posted on 08/15/2017 5:50:42 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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