Posted on 08/05/2017 7:12:04 AM PDT by Salvation
Its kind of heart to exalt oneself when one is dead. As a condition to labeled Doctor of the Church, they must already be declared a saint in Heaven, which by definition, means they are dead.
Of which there is no New Testament support for this false dogma of Roman Catholicism.
BBG: LOL, so I guess you don't believe in high school or college degrees, promotions at work, the Medal of Honor, etc.
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Has a dogmatic proclamation of faith of the Roman Catholic Church been issued by a Medal of Honor winner?? LOL
The lengths Roman Catholic go to justify their false beliefs.
How do you think the Christian faith made it to Luther? That would be the Catholic Church, as well as the Bible the Church collated. Recall also, the Orthodox Church, also Christian, separated from the Catholic Church in 1054. Were the Orthodox non-Christian until then?
Recall, Luther was a Benedictine monk. Was he non-Christian until he posted his 95 theses? Were all Catholic-raised, Protestant reformers non-Christian until they decided they weren’t Catholic any more?
It appears people are only Christian if they conform to your definition. As I have demonstrated, history, logic, and reason support Catholics as Christian.
Agree. We see a fairly simple structure in the NT Church.
If that is compared to the current structure of Roman Catholicism we can how its veered off the straight and narrow.
In the NT we see the clear teaching that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, yet in Roman Catholicism an exception has been carved out.
In the NT we see that all sin separates us from God yet in Roman Catholicism we see two different types of sin in the "venial" and "mortal".
We can go on and on with the contradictions Roman Catholicism and the New Testament.
He read the New Testament for himself...in the Greek. IIRC his detractors were unable to do so.
That would be the Catholic Church, as well as the Bible the Church collated.
Ah yes...the oft repeated, yet proven false claim, that the Roman Catholic church gave us the Bible.
Recall, Luther was a Benedictine monk. Was he non-Christian until he posted his 95 theses? Were all Catholic-raised, Protestant reformers non-Christian until they decided they weren’t Catholic any more?
I don't know when Luther, or any of the others you noted, made a conversion to Christianity. I know this...if they were counting on what Roman Catholicism had been teaching them then it is very doubtful they were true believers.
It appears people are only Christian if they conform to your definition. As I have demonstrated, history, logic, and reason support Catholics as Christian.
A Christian is one who follows Christ...who has placed their faith in Christ and only Christ. If we're following Christ we're going to do what He says to do.
In Roman Catholicism it's Jesus + works + Mary + the Eucharist + Baptism + believing the Pope is infallible + Mary was assumed into Heaven + Immaculate Conception and who knows what else.
There is a difference.
Your definition of what you think Catholics believe, is incorrect.
What don't Roman Catholics have to believe that I listed?
You have to believe baptism saves.
You have to believe in the Eucharist.
You have to believe in the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption
You have to believe the Pope is infallible when he speaks ex cathedra.
You have to believe in Unam Sanctam.
You have to be subject to the bishop.
Are those not dogmatic beliefs of Roman Catholicism?
When my sister says she’s Methodist, she is not saying she’s not Christian.
When my niece says she’s Lutheran, she is not saying she is not Christian.
When my cousin says he’s Baptist, he is not saying he is not Christian.
In the same way, when I say I am Catholic, I am not saying I am not Christian.
The New Testament teaches this comes about through faith in Christ.
All I've noted is what Roman Catholicism says you have to believe to be a Roman Catholic. One of those being,"Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."
That is not a New Testament teaching....hence, Roman Catholicism is not Christian.
HEAR ME LOUD AND CLEAR! I AM A CHRISTIAN!
May the peace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ be with you.
Is that belief necessary to be a Christian?
Catholics were the first Christians.
The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ on the apostles, the first Bishops.
—Bishop Fulton Sheen
What’s your answer to my question in that case? Can you be a Christian and not believe the Immaculate Conception or the Assumption?
The ekklesia was founded on Christ as the chief cornerstone. Faith in Him being required.
http://www.reformedliterature.com/calvin-letter-cxxiv-to-luther.php?print=on
Letter to Luther (January 21, 1545)
John Calvin (1509-1564)
Calvin submits to Luther several of his writings, of which he desires to obtain his approbation.
“To the very excellent pastor of the Christian Church, Dr. M. Luther, my much respected father,”...
Catholic hold Jesus Christ in highest regard. Our faith is in Him.
You are partly right. Post 29 agrees with my comment which is that all Catholics are Christian, though not all Christians are Catholic.
As the Bible tells us, Christians are baptized in water, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. (Matt. 28:19) Now, other denominations make take exception to that definition. Catholics have accepted Baptism as valid of non-Catholics since the mid 3rd century, as decided by Pope St. Stephen.
If one professes to be a Roman Catholic, then they must believe all that is professed in the Nicene Creed, as well as those things dogmatically taught.
On an unrelated note, do you argue against other Christian denominations as strongly as you do Catholics?
Since I don’t read the Protestant Caucus threads, I don’t know.
I’m just curious. If you don’t want to answer in public forum, that’s fine by me. Should you choose to answer privately, I will respect your private answer.
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