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Addiction: Disease or Sin?
God's Addiction Recovery Plan ^ | September 24, 2015 | Michael Wrenn

Posted on 08/01/2017 3:51:14 PM PDT by evangmlw

The problem of alcohol and drug addiction has reached epidemic proportions in the United States and around the world. Alcoholism runs rampant across the globe, drug abuse continues to consume its victims, and addiction to prescription drugs appears to be at an all time high. Many rehabilitation facilities have waiting lists for admittance, detoxification centers abound, the morgue slabs are full, and funeral homes continue to profit on the crisis of addiction stalking both old and young alike. Is there an answer? Is there a remedy to this destructive force that has been unleashed upon our planet?

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: addict; alcohol; drugs; neither; recovery
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To: Nifster

If it is a heritable disease where the body doesn’t process alcohol yoically or what have you then just don’t drink.

You can’t just not have cancer or just not have Parkinson’s. You can just not drink.

Which is why it’s in the sin category not the disease category.


61 posted on 08/01/2017 7:13:07 PM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Timpanagos1

You may be trying to be funny or not....but you are incorrect


62 posted on 08/01/2017 8:21:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Sorry you don’t understand how alcohol is processed by one with alcoholism....

Binge drinker or daily, if you are alcoholic you exhibit this processing difference


63 posted on 08/01/2017 8:23:26 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Persevero

Alcoholism is as much a disease as is diabetes.

But you just keep doing you


64 posted on 08/01/2017 8:24:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Drinking alcohol is an elective activity and if one does not drink, they will never suffer from alcoholism.

The same goes for junkies.

Do not shoot heroin and you will not become a junkie.


65 posted on 08/01/2017 8:31:48 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Nifster

Appears to me Alcoholism is no different than drug addiction....both often used to self medicate because the addiction demands it when abused til one is addicted.....doesn’t only destroy body organs...but affects the brain as well.

Neither would I consider either a disease as it’s self inflicted....rather once one indulges some are more likely to become addicted than others just by their own particular nature.....it’s still a choice and lots of warnings from people before it becomes an addiction....


66 posted on 08/01/2017 8:32:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: cornfedcowboy

Lyme disease sufferer for over 25 years. Considered unfixable so pain relief is living option. As unfixable, I found comfort in a WebMD discussion that one takes the best life available and I am. Hate the scourge of being on opioid but its all I got although many need help.


67 posted on 08/01/2017 8:39:20 PM PDT by mcshot (Prepare for the new meaning of "riding shotgun".)
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To: Persevero
Both are abused .....neither becomes ‘an addiction’ until over indulging in it... and destroying the brain and body functions until the body demands it.

I agree it's a choice, but it can get to the point where the body can't function without it. Thus addiction to these substances....

People who have eating disorders , either not eating or gluttony too have “pleasure” centers they're feeding....either mentally or physically or both. Nobody is forcing them to eat that bag of chips and icecream....or forcing anyone not to eat.... However this happens it's people choosing to put something into their bodies they do have a choice to do so or not.

68 posted on 08/01/2017 8:39:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: Chickensoup

I’ve had morphine and other pain pills over my lifetime and like you never thought to take any longer than was needed. In fact I was very glad not to have to take them.

I just think it’s easier for people to blame it on anything other than their own choice to continue taking them when they don’t need them. Probably shame and a host of other things come into the picture rather than admit they messed up.


69 posted on 08/01/2017 8:46:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: Timpanagos1

Your first statement is incorrect.....but that’s ok. You just keep doing you


70 posted on 08/01/2017 8:54:00 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: caww

Well your understanding of alcoholism is incorrect.

But just keep thinking


71 posted on 08/01/2017 8:55:09 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Right...because addicts come in all flavors of mental and emotional beings. However it is still a person themselves putting something in their body...what the circumstances are that facilitated that isn't significant because many people all face issues in their life and don't take up a drug or booze. I do think it's a matter that sometimes it's just an easy out from what people face. ...to take off the pressure of whatever they're facing, and or not facing. I say this because I went to an AA meeting as a guest....they all spoke about common ordinary 'stuff' pretty much we all face in life ....the difference I heard was the consistent beat of "I couldn't handle it".....so they drank or took drugs to cope.
72 posted on 08/01/2017 9:00:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: Nifster

Renalcoholism is just as much a sin as diabetes:

There are two types of diabetes. One is inherited. You get it when young and healthy, even (my slender active niece got it at age 9) it is a genetic disorder and no amount of self control can stop it.

The other is self induced where you eat so poorly and sit so much your pancreas doesn’t function.

One is a sin imo the other is not.

As for “you just keep being you” what is that about? My opinion is not intended to offend but enlighten. If you can explain to me how Parkinson’s and alcoholism are in the same plane, or why God forbids drunkenness but does not forbid getting the flu, say on. This is an opinion forum. Condescending comments are not helpful.


73 posted on 08/01/2017 9:03:33 PM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Nifster

“Your first statement is incorrect.....but that’s ok.”

I’ve known plenty of alcoholics and plenty of junkies and not one if them was ever forces to take that drink or shoot those drugs.

I do understand that it may be a compulsion, but we have as humans have the intellect to control our compulsions.


74 posted on 08/01/2017 9:03:42 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Nifster

Perhaps I don’t have understanding as you might think.....but I am trying to understand. So what’s your take on it?


75 posted on 08/01/2017 9:20:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: Nifster

The body doesn’t process alcohol in the alcoholic the way normal drinkers do...

Ok so if that’s the case then why do they continue drinking? and what’s the difference?


76 posted on 08/01/2017 9:22:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: Timpanagos1

Sounds to me like it gets to the point where it’s both mental and physical.....like people who can’t adjust their food intake and become obese.


77 posted on 08/01/2017 9:24:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: Timpanagos1

Junkies are different than alkues


78 posted on 08/01/2017 9:52:36 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: caww

They keep drinking precisely because of this difference in processing.


79 posted on 08/01/2017 9:54:57 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

“Junkies are different than alkues”

How are they different?


80 posted on 08/01/2017 9:59:29 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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