Posted on 07/31/2017 10:26:01 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
ROME, July 26, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – Sources inside the Vatican suggest that Pope Francis aims to end Pope Benedict XVI’s universal permission for priests to say the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM), also known as the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. While the course of action would be in tune with Pope Francis’ repeatedly expressed disdain for the TLM especially among young people, there has been no open discussion of it to date.
Sources in Rome told LifeSite last week that liberal prelates inside the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith were overheard discussing a plan ascribed to the Pope to do away with Pope Benedict’s famous document that gave priests freedom to offer the ancient rite of the Mass.
Catholic traditionalists have just celebrated the tenth anniversary of the document, Summorum Pontificum. Pope Benedict XVI issued it in 2007, giving all Latin Rite priests permission to offer the TLM without seeking permission of their bishops, undoing a restriction placed on priests after the Second Vatican Council.
The motu proprio outraged liberal bishops as it stripped them of the power to forbid the TLM, as many did. Previously priests needed their bishop’s permission to offer the TLM.
Additionally, Summorum Pontificum stated that wherever a group of the faithful request the TLM, the parish priests should willingly agree to their request.
The overheard plans are nearly identical to comments from an important Italian liturgist in an interview published by France’s La Croix earlier this month. Andrea Grillo a lay professor at the Pontifical Athenaeum of St Anselmo in Rome, billed by La Croix as “close to the Pope,” is intimately familiar Summorum Pontificum. Grillo in fact published a book against Summorum Pontificum before the papal document was even released.
Grillo told La Croix that Francis is considering abolishing Summorum Pontificum. According to Grillo, once the Vatican erects the Society of Saint Pius X as a Personal Prelature, the Roman Rite will be preserved only within this structure. "But [Francis] will not do this as long as Benedict XVI is alive.”
The plan, as related to LifeSite, involved making an agreement with the Society of St. Pius X and, with that agreement in place, sequestering those Catholics wanting the TLM to the SSPX. For most, that would strip them of access to the TLM since there would not be nearly enough SSPX priests to service Catholics wanting the TLM worldwide.
Moreover, LifeSite’s source suggested that the plan may explain a May 20, 2017 letter by the recently ousted Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, Cardinal Gerhard Müller. Even though Cardinal Müller wanted the SSPX fully reconciled to help fight modernists in the Church, the May 20 letter seemed to scuttle an agreement between Pope Francis and the SSPX which would see them get a personal prelature. The letter includes provisions long known to be completely unacceptable to the SSPX, thus nullifying an understanding SSPX leader Bishop Bernard Fellay believed was imminent.
The LifeSite source suggested that the May 20 letter by Muller perhaps was written because he knows what Francis was up to and wanted to avoid the plan to bury Summorum Pontificum with Pope Benedict. “It’s directed not so much against Fellay but against the agreement,” said the source. “Pope Francis was very angry that document came out from Cardinal Muller and some say that’s why he made the decision to dismiss him.”
Anti-pope....... Marxist, gay baiting anti-pope.
If you hated the Catholic Church would you do anything different than what the secular, homosexual, socialist is doing to it?
At the rate he’s going, Bergoglio will be instituting a black mass in the Vatican. The man is pure evil.
“...Bergoglio plans to end the Latin Rite Mass...The current pontiff is trying everything in his power to destroy it.”
Make up your mind: Is Bergoglio the pontiff or are we absent one currently?
Going way out of his way to cause trouble.
People who enjoy the Latin Mass are harming no one.
And then there’s Rorate’s response:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3572707/posts
Yet they provide no proof that it’s just an untrue rumor.
Never mind Summorum Pontificum or Pope Benedict XVI. It was near blasphemy that caused any pope to ever have to issue the Summorum Pontificum, or defend the TLM, the Church Doctrine and Sacred Scripture.
The Odd Duck is not the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass of Christ of Tradition, (TLM) but rather the Weirdest is the Novus Ordo, sprung up from apostates willing to vandalize the Church and the Holy Sacrament of the Mass, eliminating whole prayers of Mercy and truncating everything to which they could lay waste and get by with and place man and woman and priest at the center of the celebration sacarament.
Priests are, practically speaking, replaced by mostly women and girls (Hillary would have loved it) while the men are seated throughout the Church displaced by mostly women who answered the church bulletin ad calling for “VOLUNTEERS” to distribute Holy Communion, and nearly all of them mimicking the priestly privilege of blessing non-communicants who come forward thinking these volunteers can give such a blessing.
It’s all brutally laughable and has utterly destroyed the piety and holiness of the great Sacrament, diluted and shrunk the priesthood, into Western Nothingness and turned the universal Church over to goofy Leftist Cardinals who have dished up now worse things. They elected to more harshly strike Rome, and insult the Seat of Peter.
The underground Church would be a great suffering, but the Church shall live wherever she is planted. There remains a generation who knows Truth, Tradition and Sacred Scripture and prophecy. We prepare best we can to be held without the True Sacraments, in a dark captivity, until which time our Lord wills to redeem our suffering.
Last count I was privy to hearing was that the FSSP has only 200 dedicated Masses in the USA, and people in so many dioceses are regularly denied the TLM, in any form. Many who claim the TLM in other apostolates do so poorly, and in only part time capacity.
The defense of the NOvus Order is rare. Most of the devout in all but a few places are taken ill by it, and its greatest number of supporters are those who know nothing else.
Canon Law appeals are plenty, trying to get permission from bitter NOvus Order bishops to begin the TLM.
So one should ask: Did SP truly unleash the TLM or was it mostly lip-service to throw a bone to "those" Catholics who are unfortunately stuck in the past?
By the way, if Francis is a legit pope, then he has every right to overturn SP.
A black mass?
Next, he’ll be saying the mass in farsi.
From what I’ve read, Benedict himself was disappointed in the deterioration of the mass. He knew Vatican II never called for priests to move the Altar and face the people, for example, or to ditch Latin, or shelve Gregorian chant.
One abuse of VII followed another.
” By the way, if Francis is a legit pope, then he has every right to overturn SP. “ >>
Hmmm. Maybe you are correct, but I thought particularly in defense of Tradition, and confirmed by it, and in concert with it and in tune with what other popes had pronounced, that a good pope’s declaration (Summorum Pontificum) was a building block to actually keep the faith strong, unchanging and the practices.
Borgoglio has broken with Tradition, and also even Doctrine (which is exercised by Tradition). How could he arbitrarily go against Benedict XVI, which was at least an attempt to restore what was lost? Jorge has virtually nothing of perpetuity on his side with regard to the sacred.
His words are defiant and should be rejected by the College, as well as future pontiffs. Jorge does not want a “peculiar people” and “a holy nation” as Sacred Scripture speaks, in the name of Jesus, the Christ. Jorge wants a Protestant nation, of man’s own interpretations and own unfomed conscience, disintegration of “works”, and man centered mood of the age.
The Sovereign Pontiff alone enjoys the right to recognize and establish any practice touching the worship of God, to introduce and approve new rites, as also to modify those he judges to require modification.
Of course the Church through the Supreme Pontiff also cannot give us universal liturgical rites that are impious, heretical, harmful, or sacrilegious:
If anyone says that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church uses in the celebration of Masses, are incentives to impiety rather than the services of piety: let him be anathema. -Council of Trent
May our Pope cross over this vale of tears very soon.
Assuming the Novus Ordo liturgy is Catholic and just a different, new rite, etc promulgated by a true pope, then there would be no problem here. If it is given to us by the Church it should not be a danger to our Faith. As Catholics we should, in obedience, go to the Novus Ordo knowing it was given to us by the Church and a true pope.
However, there is a problem here. A huge one. The Novus Ordo "mass" *is* a danger to the Catholic Faith. It is not Catholic. It is a substantial change from what came before (i.e. it reflects a new theology). But this can not be if it is given to us by the Church and a true pope (according to Pius XII...and others). Ergo.....
<< “ Why is his changing the liturgy a “scandal” or “heresy”? “ >>
I know I conflate the two documents, Summorum Pontificum and AL. For me, they both apply to the condition of the Holy Mass. We have the need for TLM. We see it mocked and dismissed. We have the need for good Communion in a state of grace. We see it, in practice, distributed in certain places to those not in a state of grace.
Cleverly, Bergoglio changes nothing... officially. He is giving license to bad “PRACTICUM”, while on paper all is left to remain intact. In *practice* they are are ignored.
For example, it seems to be only in the *footnotes* of AL where the end run is being allowed to be open to interpretation, while the actual text of AL cleverly denies nothing of Tradition.
The Seat of Peter is the keeper of Tradition, of the Magisterium and of Sacred Scripture, and these three foundations together support continuity of the Church.
Does this make any sense to you, of my observations? It’s all very confusing, but then it is all very obvious and in plain sight as well. imho.
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