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To: Claud

“Where is your counterevidence?”

Well, *if you refuse to believe the words I quoted from your Pope* -
probably the most intellectually brilliant man to hold that office -
*saying that things were added* that were unknown to the Apostles and Catholics in earlier centuries, you won’t believe anything I write.

Clearly this is about what you *want* to believe and not about what is true.

Good luck with that Claud.


179 posted on 07/27/2017 7:39:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Well, *if you refuse to believe the words I quoted from your Pope* -probably the most intellectually brilliant man to hold that office -*saying that things were added* that were unknown to the Apostles and Catholics in earlier centuries, you won’t believe anything I write.

There is silence about the Assumption until about the 4th century (so Altaner is off by a century BTW). Lack of evidence means few statements for or against, so not much indication of change one way or the other. To measure change you need a good set of data points over a set timeline.

Good data points come from those doctrines that we actually find implied or discussed from the Apostolic Age on (papacy, Eucharist). And that is where your argument falls apart. Because there is no change.

186 posted on 07/27/2017 8:41:17 PM PDT by Claud
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