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To: CTrent1564

I did quote a council:

>>9. “Baptism, the gateway and foundation of the Sacraments, actually or at least in desire is necessary for all for salvation. …” Code of Canon Law (1917), Canon 737 § 1. See also the Decrees from the Council of Trent on Justification and on Baptism.<<

Therefore, by your argument: if aborted, unbaptized babies can’t go the Heaven, and there is no Limbo, they go to Hell.


89 posted on 07/04/2017 7:50:10 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

ebb tide:

Let’s take baptism of desire, what if you have two infants in a different hospital both in serious medical conditions. Both sets of parents have desire for the baptism of their children. Both call a priest to administer the sacrament of baptism. One child dies before the priest can administer baptism the other child does not.

One child goes to heaven one to hell. the arbitrariness of that situation is akin to double predestination, which is btw also condemned by the Catholic Church at the Council of Orange in the 6th century.

I am not prepared to say what happens to the child who was not officially baptized, by some means the desire of the parents for baptism may constitute a legitimate form of “baptism of desire” as it is the desire of the parents to have an infant baptized which gets a child sacramentally baptized.

As for aborted children, that is a subject that is beyond my pay grade and likely yours as well.


92 posted on 07/04/2017 8:49:57 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: ebb tide

I am not ready to condemn aborted children to hell. Since the 4th century, the Roman Church has celebrated the Feast of the Holy Innocents, whereby Herod murdered all Children under 2. The Church, two make this a major feast during the Christmas season must have seen this children in some sense as martyrs, thus by extension connected them to the 3rd form of baptism the baptism in blood.

I know at my parish, we typically pray for the victims of abortion at Sunday Mass. Maybe your SSPX type parish does not. The Feast of the Holy Innocents is still on my Liturgical calendar, I assume it is also on yours.

It is possible that the Church sees the victims of abortion in the same fashion as the Holy Innocents described in Saint Matthew’s Gospel Chapter 2:16-17 (all boys 2 years and younger).

And again, the Church does not say what happens to aborted children, only that Mother Church trusts them to the Mercy of God.


99 posted on 07/05/2017 7:32:27 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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