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To: MHGinTN

Do you, then, believe in a Second AND a Third coming?


421 posted on 06/29/2017 10:42:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Ya could look it up." -- FReeper jjotto)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

His second coming, as some might mention it, is to remove the church family....we meet him “in the air’ as scripture reads....he does not step foot on the ground....his final coming will be when he does touch the ground and then some of course.


422 posted on 06/29/2017 10:56:01 AM PDT by caww
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I believe, because the Bible teaches it, that The Lord will descend from HEAVEN with a shout, and we will be gathered IN THE CLOUDS to meet the Lord IN THE AIR, not on the ground. When the Lord comes to the planet surface the Mount of Olives will be split in two. When He comes in the air for the Bride, no such splitting happens. That is what happens at the end of the seven years of Daniel's seventieth week.

The confusion is centered upon misunderstanding why there is an interlude of the Age of Grace, and why that must end BEFORE the wrath is poured out to put an end to sin.

Short answer, no, I do not accept your characterization of two and then a third coming. The Rapture of the Saints during the Age of Grace is not a 'coming to the earth'.

Satan is the Prince of the power of the air. Jesus pierces that power and utterly destroys him at the end of the Tribulation, the end of Jacob's Trouble. The Rapture is for the Bride of Christ. The second Coming is for Israel and the rest of humanity who have rejected His Grace.

Until the Restrainer (Holy Spirit indwelling believers, acting as a restraint on lawlessness) is taken out of the way, the man of sin cannot be revealed (2 Thess 2). The Body of Christ IS the Restrainer, per se, due to the Presence of the Holy Spirit in each believer.

The Age of Grace is the mystery Paul spoke of that was hidden from the ages, the ages of Judaism advent and end. During the Tribulation it is Jews, not the Ekklesia, that will be evangelizing the world. The work of the Holy Spirit during the Age of Grace ends with the Rapture. The Holy Spirit is still here, but not indwelling the believers as He is today.

425 posted on 06/29/2017 11:08:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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