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To: Luircin

No, JESUS said to drink the fruit of the vine as remembrance of HIS blood about to be poured out for us and our Salvation. HE even reiterated that by saying HE would not drink that fruit of the vine again until in The Kingdom. And the word in the Ten Commandments is ‘murder’ not kill.


132 posted on 06/19/2017 8:08:37 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

1: No, it’s ‘kill’ in Hebrew. I know enough Hebrew; I had it pounded hard enough into my head, let me tell you. The sense may be murder because of the exceptions, but the word itself is ‘kill.’ Specifically, killing another human. There are cases where the word is used that does not contain the connotation of murder. (Numbers 35: 27, where the word is used as the avenger of blood kills the target outside of a sanctuary city, and the avenger of blood is not guilty, even though the same word as in the Commandment is used.)

2: Also, from Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians: “In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.”

Of course, Catholics believe differently, but we Lutherans believe that verse in question means that Communion is, yes, the real Body and Blood of Christ. And also bread and wine because that’s ALSO what Jesus says they are. How? No idea, but Scripture is our source of truth, and that’s what it says.

Now, you can argue differently if you like, but I simply wanted to point out that you CAN make an argument solely from Scripture about the whole Communion thing.

Even if I’ve never seen a Catholic on this board use that argument before, to be honest. But then again, I’m just a neophyte on FR religion.


133 posted on 06/19/2017 8:32:28 AM PDT by Luircin
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