Posted on 06/18/2017 2:09:43 PM PDT by narses
Bwahahahaha You are so entertaining! Bless your heart, you really do not get it.
We have the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts to check against and they don’t change.
Word of mouth is less than reliable.
What oral traditions did Paul teach that were not recorded in Scripture?
How do you know they are from Paul, after 2,000 years?
How do you know they have been passed down faithfully for 2,000 years?
Asking for my opinion on something and then asking for sources of documentation for my opinion is foolishness.
Well, maybe I’m just a neophyte on these threads.
But in past threads I’ve seen that the quote-unquote ‘anti-Catholics’ have tended to have much longer posts with citations from Scripture than the Catholics have.
But back to the point, if you want to be taken seriously, a ‘he did it first’ is not a very effective argument.
YOU are the one making the claim that nothing after Deuteronomy 4:2 is relevant.
Why are you demanding that he prove your point to you?
Do your own work.
but it isn’t if you ask for it? Give me a break. I did’t ask for an opinion, I asked for documentation that the scriptures have been passed down for 2000 years. they were handled by Catholics, by the way for 1500 plus!
I also post scripture and articles that expound on facts. How you or anyone perceives me is of no moment, I am nothing. The Truth matters.
...what?
So you admit you need more than Scripture Alone to discern the truth? That all necessary to discern the Truth is not found in Scripture?
You can't have it both ways
Yep, I am perfectly willing to take my chances, outside the catholic church. If people want to be in it, that's on them. Being as I am my own pope, I choose to go somewhere else. 😏
Don't be an idiot. I asked a simple question. If "Add Nothing to this Book" in Revelations is accurate, WHY can Deut "Add Nothing" be ignored? You can't have have it both ways.
Clearly shows your interpenetration of Scripture is wrong, and cannot be supported by Scripture. I cannot defend or explain Sola Scripture because it is NOWHERE supported in Scripture.
Show from Scripture why Deut can be ignored.
You ask for a continent on a teaspoon.
Let me recommend TRADITION AND THE CHURCH by George Agius. Only a little more than 300 pages, which you will find hugely interesting — if you’re interested.
In the meantime,in between my doctoring, I will try to spoon you up some samples and examples. I will try not to make any of the doses too big, the sort which might inspire bitesize — not continent size -—back-and-forths.
Go ahead, keep crapping on columns you don’t read.
Dear narses
Relics have no supernatural power, in and of themselves.
The relics or articles of clothing that physically touched or were worn by Jesus or Paul, in and of themselves, do not have power to heal.
The power to heal comes from the faith of those who needed a miracle in the person of Jesus Christ. “If I can just touch the hem of his garment” infers her faith in the person to whom the garment belonged.
These scriptures about articles of clothing etc., are extrapolations of how the Centurion’s servant was healed without Jesus personally laying hands upon him...
And Jesus commended the Centurion for His great faith BECAUSE he did not ask Christ to go and physically lay hands on the man.
Notice the Centurion didn’t ask for an article of Christ’s clothing, he just believed that Jesus was who He said He was: God incarnate.
IOW, idolatrous relics fail the test of the first commandment....
Thank you, MHGinTN
Define ‘truth.’
All you need is Scripture to know what God’s plan for salvation is. The Bible isn’t a science textbook.
Are you claiming something else?
Traditions put to the test of the Word are fine,
and the RCC has no spiritual or earthly authority from the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob to say anything about it.
I’ve always thought the Ten Commandments about covered it.
It is sad that the Catholic steeped mind cannot see the obvious, but there it is. And Jesus used that incident in the desert when He taught Nicodemus about being born from above. Of course, Our Lord applied the example properly, to illustrate that it is belief in God’s Promise that heals, and since the sin nature is pure poison, the Promise of God in Christ as our Savior by believing HE IS our redeemer heals the poisonous condition. It is by faith, never works, deeds, fealty to sacramental striving, Mary pleadings, or any other plea to any other intercessor. JESUS said no man comes to the Father but by Him. Yet the naysayers seeking signs and wonders or desiring to offer their works will refuse to see and acknowledge the obvious.
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