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To: faithhopecharity; Repent and Believe
Keep faith (and we do not have to agree on all doctrinal issues, obviously)

Actually, as Catholics, we are to agree on all doctrinal issues. The problem is that the post Vatican II doctrine doesn't agree with Traditional Catholic doctrine. You seem to think that the last 50 years of heresy trumps the previous 1960 years of Truth.

30 posted on 06/19/2017 1:15:45 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv

if the Church cannot learn better understandings of The Truth or even correct past errors or misunderstandings, then why does the Church have/need/bother with a Magesterium (which is, after all, the Teaching Office of the Church), inluding popes and bishops?

I’d respectfully commend that you pray, of course I realize you must pray often, and faithfully consider that five holy popes in row, as well as over 2200 bishops (to a mere 83+/- as I recall) have been teaching as I have attempted to quote, provide for you. Read their teachings, epistles, etc.
I’ll gladly send you more if you like.
The point being, they can express and explain a whole lot better than mere me. As for mere me, some of these matters are crystal clear, others appear to be complicated because they are dealing with areas of long=standing debate or confusion or even apparently=inconsistent scriptural verses (if you will). You did not invent these things. I did not invent these things. The last 5 holy fathers did not invent these things. But as they have, are teaching ... along with the bishops of the Church, we CAN read and consider what they all have to say.
Best I can do now, I have to go earn some filthy lucre.
Blessings to you,
fhc


31 posted on 06/19/2017 1:42:06 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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