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To: piusv

Actually since several of God’s covenants with His Jewish people are unconditional, yes the Church fathers who taught otherwise were mistaken. ( it’s either that or God is a liar. I refuse to accept or pray to a lying god. Therefore, the last 4 popes or so are correct on this point, imho. ). Respectfully, fhc. Ps: I respect the fact that some people reject all of Vatican 2 or most of it. Nevertheless, Nostra aetate won the support of 2221 bishops , to only 88 against, and thus clearly represents a teaching worth considering and prayer, imho, especially insofar as there is clear Holy Scriptural basis for at least it’s discussion of God’s “chosen” people. All popes then and since have gone out of their way to reinforce this one aspect of the teaching, too That’s about the best I can do — blessings, Genesis 12:3


25 posted on 06/18/2017 7:56:48 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: faithhopecharity

http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/judaism-church-after-vatican-ii-1342

Yes, many prelates went along with the heresy. Very similar to the Arian Crisis with the exception that with this Crisis we have the putative visible head of the Church promulgating it to the rest of the Church.


26 posted on 06/18/2017 8:17:26 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: faithhopecharity; piusv

“Actually since several of God’s covenants with His Jewish people are unconditional, yes the Church fathers who taught otherwise were mistaken...”

What?!

Did Jesus Christ our Lord not convert twelve Jews, (including one who later became an apostate) from Judaism to Christianity?

Are you not familiar at all with this part of Catholicism?

Please stop now before I read you like “Francis” lecturing Jesus and Mary on how to be a good Catholic!


28 posted on 06/19/2017 3:04:37 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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