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The Catholic Church has succumbed to a “liberal left ideology which is destroying the West”
WDTPRS ^ | June 14, 2017 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 06/16/2017 3:14:03 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 06/16/2017 3:14:04 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 06/16/2017 3:14:39 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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The Catholic Church succumbed about 50 years ago, at least.


3 posted on 06/16/2017 3:17:20 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is." Ayn Rand)
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What makes anyone think that libwads could destroy the Church when even bad bishops over the last 2,000 years have been unable to do it.


4 posted on 06/16/2017 3:19:53 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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“The Catholic Church succumbed about 50 years ago, at least.

First, the theology after 200ad.
Now the ideology.

We need revival and draining the swamp.


5 posted on 06/16/2017 3:20:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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The Church on the way to Sweden.


6 posted on 06/16/2017 3:21:24 PM PDT by onedoug (Remembering 68-69 Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club)
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Jesuit Scholar: Seeking to Defend Islam at All Costs Is Betraying the Truth
7 posted on 06/16/2017 3:38:17 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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Succumbed? No!

Embraced? Yes!


8 posted on 06/16/2017 3:39:14 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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Evils of Islam


9 posted on 06/16/2017 3:39:58 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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This is why anyone who takes their Catholic faith seriously needs to find a trad parish near them and support it.


10 posted on 06/16/2017 3:43:29 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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I belong to a “regular” Catholic Parish Community and don’t hear any of this ideology coming from our parishioners except for a few old Hippie types left over from the 60’s. The Church will survive this, too. Think more about the many Catholics in countries where they are martyred for their faith. It is happening today. Keep them in prayer.


11 posted on 06/16/2017 3:56:54 PM PDT by xelliott123 (World Youth Day)
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Conflating Faith with Politics is a fools errand.


12 posted on 06/16/2017 3:59:44 PM PDT by soycd
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bkmk


13 posted on 06/16/2017 4:01:03 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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The pope, not the Church as a whole. The pope is not worthy to be pope. He should resign.


14 posted on 06/16/2017 4:02:52 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: Catmom

“This is why anyone who takes their Catholic faith seriously needs to find a trad parish near them and support it.”

Love to, but I don’t think there are any around here.


15 posted on 06/16/2017 4:18:32 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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And probably all mainline Protestant churches have fallen for it as well. We Christians need to admit that the Moslem’s “Allah” is NOT the same god whom we follow, but an imposter, and an evil one.


16 posted on 06/16/2017 4:20:27 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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“The pope is not worthy to be pope. He should resign.”

Resign? Do you know how long it took Satan to get one of his own onto the throne? Satan’s not going to let him resign. Or die. Satan takes care of his own.


17 posted on 06/16/2017 4:23:05 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Hang in there and keep searching. Maybe there are some Latin masses held in local parishes.

The movement is growing.


18 posted on 06/16/2017 4:37:57 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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Last count there were only 200 Traditional Latin Mass churches affiliated with the Fraternal Society of Saint Peter (FSSP) in the US.

Many of us have no TLM available at all, or within hundreds of miles.

Attendance would require 7 hour round trips and overnight stays. It’s very scary. To receive Holy Communion we endure the vandalized Mass and revolting pretense of even being Catholic. Clearly many churches have ditched Roman Catholic identity and are fully protestant to the Church.


19 posted on 06/16/2017 4:52:12 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team forappreciatests coming... infinitum.)
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Roman Catholicism might want to address this first.

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting.

Since in the course of centuries not a few quarrels and hostilities have arisen between Christians and Moslems, this sacred synod urges all to forget the past and to work sincerely for mutual understanding and to preserve as well as to promote together for the benefit of all mankind social justice and moral welfare, as well as peace and freedom.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html p>Roman Catholicism needs to clear up this matter.

To be clear...Christians and Muslims do not adore the same God. The difference in Christianity and Roman Catholicism on this issue needs to be noted.

Christians worship God of the Bible.

Muslims worship Allah of the Koran...a created being.

20 posted on 06/16/2017 5:40:28 PM PDT by ealgeone
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