[Arthur McGowan]

Bergoglio hates the Catholic Church, and everything she teaches.

And it’s not just about a few lefty “issues.” He stands arrogantly in front of the Blessed Sacrament—even when surrounded by hundreds of others who are kneeling in adoration.

He will trash every element of Catholicism he can, up to the day of his death. There is no line that he will voluntarily not cross.

[momincombatboots]

The only Papal document I would ever recommend need not be changed.

[BlessedBeGod]

However, if the antithesis “the pill yes – the pill no – like today’s “Communion to the divorced yes – Communion to the divorced no” is only a polemical game, the same principle could be applied to all of the great themes of the Faith and Morality: “abortion yes – abortion no”, but also “the Resurrection yes – the Resurrection no” “original sin yes – original sin no” and so on. The very contraposition between truth and error and good and evil, becomes at this point “a polemical game”.

Just like the head of the Jesuits, Fr. Arturo Sosa, who said we have to reinterpret Christ because there were no tape recorders in His time. Well, there were no tape recorders in the Garden of Eden, or anywhere else (and do we actually have Moses' tablets showing the Ten Commandments? How do we really know what they were, or that there were really ten, or whether there were really any commandments at all ???), so it throws the entire Bible into question. Now this will throw all of faith and morality into question.

[arthurus]

Francis looks set to sanctify artificial contraception. Abortion will follow.

[ebb tide]

... he (Monsignor Marengo) cites Pope Francis at this point – we have presented a too abstract theological ideal on marriage, almost artificially constructed, far from the concrete situation and the effective possibilities of families as they really are. This excessive idealization, above all when we have reawakened trust in grace, has not made marriage more attractive and desirable, but quite the opposite." (Francis).

All good Catholic families should consider the above statement a slap in the face from the "vicar" of Christ.

[piusv]

I think it is important to repeat what I said in another thread re: Humanae Vitae. HV was never fully orthodox. Any Francis-modifications would just be yet another step further away from traditional Catholic teaching. Too many Catholics seem to think HV is wholly traditional, but it is not:

Humanae Vitae already taught error, specifically regarding the ends of marriage. Before HV, the Catholic Church always taught that the primary purpose of marriage is the procreation and education of children and that the secondary purpose is to furnish mutual aid and a remedy for concupiscence.

Paul VI taught that the ends of marriage were both unitive and procreative at the same time and mentioned procreation second rather than first. He did not make it clear that there were two ends of marriage with procreation above the other.

Given Paul VI also promulgated the heretical teachings of Vatican II, it's really not surprising to see him contradict this Catholic teaching as well.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Maybe they’ll put out a new combined document.

Amorphous Vitae?