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To: ebb tide; dragonblustar

Father O’Hare's book about Luther has been panned by more than a mere few 'Catholic' scholars of the more exacting type. According to them, it's among the worst things to read if one desired to understand Luther ---rather than buttress Roman Catholic prejudices and out-right hatreds for Martin Luther.

For the latter (in support of prejudice & hatreds) it's great, and is widely quoted among ignorant RC apologists.

For the former -- for understanding who is being criticized (what the man said, what he meant by it, how whatever it was fits -- or does not fit) it's worse than not reading much of anything about Luther, at all.

I intend to explain (and provide multiple links, and quotes) later, but for now, I simply don't have the several hours extra it would take to soundly refute the nonsense you've been barking.

Ever seen a chihuahua, or a shih tzu that thinks it's a doberman? Pretty comical, huh?

Yourself having attempted to order people around (based on faulty premise) is a lot like that...

20 posted on 05/26/2017 11:00:58 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; dragonblustar

How are direct quotes of the heretic, Martin Luther, not “exacting”?


21 posted on 05/26/2017 11:30:11 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: BlueDragon
I intend to explain (and provide multiple links, and quotes) later, but for now, I simply don't have the several hours extra it would take to soundly refute the nonsense you've been barking.

I'll be ready for you, with many more quotes of the heretic.

22 posted on 05/26/2017 11:36:36 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: BlueDragon; dragonblustar
Msgr. Patrick F. O'Hare, LL.D., was an American priest and author of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. His extensive work entitled The Facts about Luther was originally published by the Frederick Pustet Company, Ohio, in 1916. In it, Father O'Hare examines every important aspect of Luther's life and work to make known the truth about the legendary figure, through many of Luther's own words. The book received the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur upon publication, and was retypeset from the revised edition in 1987. The Facts about Luther was retypeset once again by TAN Books in 2007.
24 posted on 05/26/2017 11:48:52 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: BlueDragon; dragonblustar
Using primarily non-Catholic sources, O’Hare details assiduously the historic facts about Luther, his teachings, and the ever-splintering, disunited Protestant world he fathered. The real Luther is exposed through his writings, sermons, and letters, along with the testimony of his pupils, close friends, contemporaries, and Protestant biographers. Most of the common beliefs about Luther are blown away, revealed convincingly as myths made of the sands of romanticism and propaganda.

“We will then write about Luther, not against him,” says O’Hare. "We will quote his own words. If the result is not favorable to him, the fault will not be ours.”

“My word,” said Luther, “is the word of Christ; my mouth is the mouth of Christ.” It is one of history’s great ironies that “the mouth of Christ” stands condemned by his own words.

O’Hare states: “We have no intention to wound the convictions and sensibilities of any in the community who may disagree with us. Our aim is to tell the truth about the standard-bearer of the Reformation, and of this no one should be afraid, for truth and virtue triumph by their own inherent beauty and power.”

25 posted on 05/26/2017 12:11:30 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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