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To: ebb tide
And as for our Protestant friends, let us recall that Christian can only be understood as Catholic. As St. Thomas says, we only call the "separated brethren" or the heretics and schismatics "Christian" out of politeness. They are not "Christian" simpliciter loquendo, but only in a qualified sense, secundum quid.

A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Not a member of a church.

Ebb, you must be lonely to post this to start a flame war.

The Roman Catholic Church along with its idolatry and worship of Mary is not seen in the New Testament.

Roman Catholics are the last ones that should be questioning who is or is not a Christian.

Hey, most of the time you can't get a Catholic to say Christian.

May we never forget that our being Christian (3) obliges us, not only to believe from the bottom of our heart, but also to confess our belief with our mouth: outside of this there is no salvation: "for with the heart we believe unto justice; but, with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation" (Rm 10:10).

Which is not what is espoused by Roman Catholicism. For it to be Roman Catholic one will have to add a lot of works, a lot of penance and Hail Mary's, hoping you haven't committed a mortal sin, hoping that Mary gives your prayer the thumbs up, hoping you've got on your Scapular or Medal when you die, hoping you've been to confession....the list can go on and on.

Paul writes nothing of this in Romans.

Whoever has not offered to Jesus Christ the supreme testimony of blood, which makes one a "martyr", will only have access to heaven with the title of "confessor"(4).

More lies from Roman Catholicism. This sounds more like Islam where martyrs are guaranteed entrance into Paradise per Islam.

There is nothing in the New Testament that indicates this difference between martyr and confessor. This is yet another reason why Roman Catholic "tradition" is rejected.

For context, this is what Paul wrote in Romans 10:5-13

5For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down), 7or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).” 8But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,

9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

11For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.”

12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;

13for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.” (NASB Translation)

This one passage from Romans completely refutes the Roman Catholic version of how one is saved.

It completely supports salvation through faith and faith alone. It also supports eternal salvation.

40 posted on 05/01/2017 5:36:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; boatbums; metmom

“A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Not a member of a church.”

It’s amusing to see you prots aren’t really the sola scripturalists y’all claim to be.

http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?q=church&b=drb


43 posted on 05/01/2017 6:09:04 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ealgeone; metmom; boatbums; MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie
It completely supports salvation through faith and faith alone. It also supports eternal salvation.

You sir, are dangerously close to being presumptuous. 😆😄😄 Ain't it great? It's the one sin I love to commit. 😀😃 It's nice to be able to miss Hell fire. 🔥

56 posted on 05/01/2017 7:20:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is history)
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