Thanks for the hint. I'll keep that in mind. Actually, I am not ignorant about it, just untutored.
On the other hand, I don't know why you asked me that question. Is it that you, too, are unlearned, or are you handing out final open-book test questions?
As you may know, there is a fairly broad range of material and opinion available on the subject from among Orthodox Church sources. By nature, no single one can claim overweening authority, and by relatively consistent and strong tradition among those sources much 'close detail' as it were, be left Mystery.
>>>> Is it that you, too, are unlearned, or are you handing out final open-book test questions? <<<<
I suspect there has been cherry-picking activity, one which would then be presented to you when it was known to be isolated "cherry", having been isolated from among items (other cherries) which could support your contentions better than his. So I raise a flag here ---Intellectual dishonesty alert---. It's right around the corner like a churning loaded cement truck going a bit too fast to stop?
It is sad, isn’t it, when some have the opportunity to be magnanimous and help further the discussion and education of others on these threads to instead choose to be insulting, petty and quibbling. I can only imagine what shallow and depressing lives they must lead. I really appreciate you both for your willingness to speak the truth without resorting to the shameful tactics of those only interested in exalting themselves instead of Christ.