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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Moslems don’t really pray when they put their heads to the floor. They recite a limited set of praises and declarations. The whole thing really is in the display. It is rigid control. They have to show each other that they are “pious.” There is really nothing they can ask of Allah because Allah recreates the world anew every instant and one can only do what Allah has told him to do and there is nothing to actually pray about as there is no free will at all and no ultimate cause and effect.


43 posted on 12/21/2016 11:32:03 PM PST by arthurus
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To: arthurus

“Moslems don’t really pray when they put their heads to the floor. They recite a limited set of praises and declarations. The whole thing really is in the display. It is rigid control. They have to show each other that they are “pious.” There is really nothing they can ask of Allah because Allah recreates the world anew every instant and one can only do what Allah has told him to do and there is nothing to actually pray about as there is no free will at all and no ultimate cause and effect.”

Thanks for explaining that.


45 posted on 12/21/2016 11:38:14 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: arthurus
Allah recreates the world anew every instant and one can only do what Allah has told him to do and there is nothing to actually pray about as there is no free will at all and no ultimate cause and effect.

Great explanation! Sometimes Christians must ask themselves if they can substitute "God the Father" for "Allah" and agree with it. In short, if you agree, then you may worship the same God as Islam.

I wish I could explain it better, so help if you can:
God the Father (and all 3 Persons of the Trinity) are not the same as this Allah. God's will is absolute, but He has chosen that power such that it's ordained to the path of love for His beings, not constantly change-able, other than by man's (and angels', fallen or not) free will. That free will includes the ability to accept or reject His love.
47 posted on 12/22/2016 1:29:11 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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