Posted on 12/11/2016 2:06:32 PM PST by ReformationFan
Dear Christians, its not the churchs job to make us feel comfortable
I received this message from a self-described pastor a few days ago:
Hi Matt, Im a pastor and I have to say Ive read your work for a while and I find it very troubling. There is no tolerance, inclusiveness, or love in your writings. Its hateful towards the LGBTQ community and others who dont share your views about gay rights, reproductive rights or many other issues. Matt churches should be focusing on how to welcome people in, whether they happen to be gay, trans, feminist or any other group you denigrate. Christians like you and all the rest on the far right have pushed these people away for so long. Matt no matter what you or your ilk say in your backwardness and bigotry, Christians in a committed same-sex relationship and others in the LGBTQ community are following Gods design for their lives. Thats the message the church needs to spread. God is love. Love is love! Your message of hatred and exclusion should be left in the dark ages where it belongs. You should be ashamed. I will pray for you. Hi, pastor. Three things:
One: These arent my views about gay rights and reproductive rights, as you refer to them. I am merely agreeing with the One who has already made His position on these subjects known. Two: Its not the churchs job to make us comfortable, pastor. Its job is to help to make us holy.
Yes, it should welcome all. In fact it should not only welcome but actively seek those who are lost. It should venture into the world, find the wandering sheep, and guide them back into the fold. But what it cannot do, pastor, is welcome our sin.
It should welcome the penitent thief, as Christ did, but it should not and cannot welcome his thievery. Remember, only one of the thieves crucified next to Christ was invited into paradise. The one who renounced his crimes was promised Heaven. The other, who clung to his wickedness even up until the moment of death, was not offered an invitation. I wonder, if you were there on Calvary that day, would you have lectured Christ for not being sufficiently inclusive?
You say we should welcome homosexuals and transgenders and people who are pro-abortion and anyone else who commits one of our cultures trendy sins, but what you really seem to mean is that we should welcome the acts of fornication, sodomy, self-mutilation, child murder, etc. These acts are Gods design for their lives, you say. And Im afraid it is on this point that you stumble headfirst into heresy.
Its true that the church should be like the father in Christs parable, running to greet the son whod squandered his inheritance on booze and prostitutes, eager to embrace and forgive him. But note how the father didnt go out, find his son at the brothel, and say, Son, why dont you come and fornicate and get drunk at home? No need to change your lifestyle at all. Just come home and do whatever you want. Dont let me cramp your style, son. Here, need some more money?
Thats because the rebellious young man had to abandon his sin, seek forgiveness, and surrender to the will of his father. Notice that when he came home he said, I have sinned against you and against heaven. I am not worthy to be called your son. Now notice that he did not say, Ive had a lot of debauched, drunken sex and Im proud of it. In fact, I plan to get back at it tomorrow. Im not sorry, I wont change, and you just need to shut up and accept it, pops. By the way, I have some hookers coming over later. Please show them to my room. Thanks.
We can be fairly sure that if the son had approached the father with that speech, he would not have been welcomed inside. There would have been no fattened calf slaughtered for a festive celebration. There would have been only grief and sadness, and, Im guessing, a pretty stern lecture. If you live in my home, you will follow my rules, the father would have bellowed, just as my father said to to me many times when I was a teenager.
We cannot be real and active members of the Body of Christ if we categorically refuse to walk the path Christ laid out for us. We cannot be members of the church if we do not love Christ, and we cannot love Christ if we scoff at his commandments.
If you love me, keep my commandments.
Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.
Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.
Be imitators of Christ.
Yet in spite of these verses you think we ought to welcome people into the church by teaching them that they need not imitate Christ or keep His commandments? Thats not the church weve welcomed them into, sir. Its damnation.
Christ died so that we may be released from the bondage of our sins. When you ask for Him to accept the very sin He shed His blood to free us from, you offend Him deeply. Worse, you reject His sacrifice. And when you reject His sacrifice, you reject the faith which was born from that sacrifice. There are some churches in America where it is explicitly taught that sin is not a big deal (direct quote from the website of the North Raleigh Community Church, a heretical cult led by John Pavlovitz). But God found our sins so terrible that he sent His only Son to Earth to defeat them. Therefore when you diminish the severity of sin, or when you insist on sin being embraced as virtue, you indulge in the worst kind of blasphemy imaginable.
Heres what it comes down to, as far as I can tell: A person cannot be included in a thing they fundamentally reject. We cant be inside and outside of something at the same time. Thats a metaphysical impossibility as much as a theological one. Those who wish to remain on the outside of the faith because they refuse to accept Christs authority on matters of morality, cannot then be meaningfully included in it. They have excluded themselves. We simply cannot accept the faith, or be accepted into the faith, if we will not accept the fact that we are guilty and in need of salvation.
Three: Lets not focus this whole conversation on homosexuality and abortionand those kinds of issues. You bring them up, you focus on them, because you think special exceptions and dispensations should be made for the people in those groups. But I say no one gets a special exception from the repentance requirement not liberals, not conservatives, not homosexuals, not heterosexuals, not you, and certainly not me.
You tell me that I should be ashamed of myself, and youre right, though perhaps not for the reasons you think. I should not, as you suggest, be ashamed of the times when I have accurately articulated truths about our faith. But I have plenty of other reasons to be ashamed. I have my own struggles, my own sin, and the last thing I want is for that sin to be accepted.
When I go to church, I dont want to be told that I need not change, I need not repent, I need not confront my wickedness. I dont want to have my false sense of spiritual security and superiority reinforced. I dont want to be told that Im perfect. Ive been around myself long enough to know better. I have compiled 30 years worth of evidence proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am indeed a desperately weak and sinful man. Yes, my sins are different from the ones our culture favors no one is lobbying for my sins to be included in the faith the way they lobby for other sorts of sins but mine are ugly and awful all the same.
What I want, pastor, is to be freed from these sins. I do not want to be made more comfortable in them. Or perhaps on some level I do want to be made comfortable in them. Maybe I would like someone to pat me on the back and say, Everything about you is wonderful and youll go to Heaven no matter what you do because youre a perfect angel. I admit I find that fantasy quite appealing. But I know that it is just that a fantasy. A fiction. A story whispered in our ears not by Christ but by Satan.
The truth is more difficult but also more hopeful. The truth is that I am dirty, but I can be cleansed. The truth is that I am weak, but I can be strengthened. The truth is that I am corrupt, but I can be made holy through the grace of God. And the church should be there to help in that process. Thats why it exists.
Anyway, I hope your promise to pray for me was sincere. I thank you very much for those prayers. I certainly need them, pastor. As do you. God bless.
Why yes, comfort is one of the three temptations.
My dad used to say that if you leave church feeling good, the preacher’s not doing his job.
they are welcome guests in any of our houses of G0d, but they do not set the rules
Wait a minute, mormons telling Christians how to behave like Christians?
Am I missing something here?
Bttt
and if they are not unrepentant sinners.
If they seek the love of Jesus then they are welcome.
They are welcome to seek redemption.
If they seek redemption and not to just spit on the bible
God is love. That is true.
The problem is we are not. We are evil and enemies of God. Thus we want to do things that are evil and corrupt the very nature of God’s design.
The scriptures states that if we love the world we make ourselves enemies to God. So the “choice” is up to us.
understood
“comfort is one of the three temptations.”
what do you mean?
“God is love.”
I agree
“Love is love! “
wishy-washy. can mean anything. like the men who “love” their daughters so much they run over them with cars or other wise kill them because they are not living by the earthly fathers standards?
“love” like jealous men or women who beat or kill the other when having relational disagreements?
“love” like parents who at the first sign of a boy or girl wearing or acting as an opposite sex child encourage and go out of their way to push the belief more firmly into their child”s mind that they were born the wrong sex?
“love” like when a dear friend decides some thing they and you know is biblically wrong you encourage and enable them in their self deception instead of standing firmly with Jesus and God’s word and trying to help them come to know the error of their choice and grow in Christ through the process?
It’s scary to think a pastor actually wrote what the article said.
He misses the whole part that God is the PERFECT Father, which means discipline and hearing things you don’t want to and being changed to a better (God’s) standard not being left to rot in our selfish sins. That too is love. And it makes the hugs and fun love of God even the sweeter :)
A church is a hospital for sinners, not a resort for saints.
Satan offered him three things that are temptations for people. One of the temptations was comfort.
The pastor is badly confused. Matt’s response is perfect.
Jesus’ interactions with known unrepentant sinners (the Pharisees, for example) are quite harsh and uncompromising - he never welcomes them in and begs them to stay - instead he called them snakes and told them they don’t know him because they don’t belong to the Father. To those who repented he said “Go and sin no more”. Read through John’s Gospel to see just how “tolerant” Jesus was willing to be towards sin.
Amen! Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
I would only disagree with Matt in his wish that the heretical faggot pastor pray for him. Why would you want Satan invoked on your life?
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