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To: cmj328

“...enjoy your new church...”

Traditonalists are not always sede vacantists, including myself.

Pope Honorius I was officially declared to be a heretic Pope.

He would have been prayed for in the canon at masses before it was found out that he embraced the monophysite heresy.

The fact that many of us, including the four cardinals, realize that Francis’ teaching that “divorced” Catholics living in an un normalized union as “married” without having had their previous marriage declared null and void are living in adultery as per Mark 10:11 -12 and are therefore ineligible for communion.

This does not cause me to somehow be in a new church - it did not cause the Catholics living under Honorius I reign as Pope to be in a “new’ church before it was officially determined that he was teaching in error.


73 posted on 12/07/2016 4:42:31 PM PST by stonehouse01
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To: stonehouse01

Sounds like you’re Poping, Mr. Antipapist.


74 posted on 12/07/2016 4:44:58 PM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: stonehouse01
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia entry re: Honorius:

It is clear that no Catholic has the right to defend Pope Honorius. He was a heretic, not in intention, but in fact; .....but he was not condemned as a Monothelite, nor was Sergius. And it would be harsh to regard him as a "private heretic", for he admittedly had excellent intentions.

Honorius can not be regarded as even a "private heretic". Therefore, we can not use Honorius as an example when we are discussing public heretics such as Francis. I know many traditionalists like to use Honorius' situation as analogous, but the fact is it is apples and oranges.

Not even a private heretic? Still a member of the Catholic Church.

Public heretic? Not a member of the Catholic Church.

84 posted on 12/08/2016 2:45:23 AM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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