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The Teaching of Jesus: What 'Judge Not' Really Means
Christian Post ^ | 12/01/2016 | Shane Idleman

Posted on 12/01/2016 9:12:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Roman_War_Criminal

This guy replaces God’s Word with the traditions of man, not unlike the Pharisees of old.


21 posted on 12/01/2016 12:06:11 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Matthew 7: 21-23. Jesus condemned people who claimed to believe in Him (Not Pharisees & Co., those were for other reasons, one being they did not claim He was sent/the Messiah) but failed to adhere to His Father's will.

For Father's will explained in New Covenant intellect, consult the Epistles along with Matthew 22:34-40. Also the Holy Spirit/Advocate helps maintain our course, especially internally convicting us within in order to personally correct ourselves.
22 posted on 12/01/2016 12:58:44 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi
The Holy Spirit convicts believers on one thing: their righteousness. And He convicts unbelievers of only one sin: not believing in Christ.

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and you see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged." John 16:7-11.

"Of sin, because they believe not on me": the only sin the Holy Spirit convicts the world of is not believing in Christ.

"Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and you see me no more": the Holy Spirit convicts us being the righteousness of God in Christ (2 Cor. 5:21).

"Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged": Satan is the only one judged and condemned by the Holy Spirit.

23 posted on 12/01/2016 1:26:40 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

“You can judge the act, but never the person.”

Yes, that’s it in a nutshell. We may judge what we see or hear, but not the motivation.


24 posted on 12/01/2016 1:30:54 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: imardmd1

Yeah typical twisting of God’s Holy Word with nothing to back it up as usual.

I know you’re type...


25 posted on 12/01/2016 3:31:48 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: SeekAndFind
Would you let a thief be a cashier?

Would you let a child molester be a baby sitter?

Would you let a corrupt politician remain in office?

A "no" answer in all of the examples and all examples of judging righteously.

26 posted on 12/01/2016 3:41:29 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Jim 0216

Sounds like he’s either into Lordship Salvation or some crazy works-based cult.

Either way - proof is in the pudding that he can’t even produce ONE scripture showing he’s correct. Like the Apostle Paul said about the Bereans in Acts 17:11, we did just that.


27 posted on 12/01/2016 3:52:13 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Modern-day Pharisee. A lot of ‘em around. As in Jesus’ and Paul’s day, so now, they are the perps bringing accusation and persecution to those preaching the gospel of the grace of Christ. As God told Paul, “My grace is sufficient.”

God bless.


28 posted on 12/01/2016 5:07:11 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; Jim 0216
Go back to your Post#9 and reread the article at the link you gave. Apparently you have not grasped it, and do not understand it, any more than you do the article for this topic. Jim likewise does not grasp this article, no more than he does that John 3:a8 as surely follows verse i7, which follows verse 16, and they are continuous parts of one thought of Christ. Those two authors are 100%jright and interpret the work correctly, which neither of you do.

And you might learn how to spell the possessive pronoun in this retort of yours, relating to the second person. That is wrong also.

29 posted on 12/01/2016 6:25:29 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
>> Post #9 <<

>> John 3:18 as surely follows verse 17, which follows verse 16 <<

>> 100% right <<

30 posted on 12/01/2016 6:34:01 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

We’re talking Salvation. Post 9 refers to judging others.
You seem to believe that SIN causes people to go to hell.
Christ said over & over again (I gave you the verses) that unbelief in Him will cause people to go to hell. John 8:24 is another.

I’ve given you more than enough scripture to back our argument up.

You fail to even give one except John 3:16-18, which again backs our argument up.

Care to give me another screed without verses like your #19?


31 posted on 12/01/2016 7:14:07 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Care to give me another screed without verses like your #19?

Nope. You've flunked, especially calling my note to you a "screed."

Unbelief is the principle sin, but not the only. You've failed to even understand your own link.

I wouldn't lower myself to your level of brawling. My last helpful suggestion to you is to read and digest Acts 17:10-13.

32 posted on 12/01/2016 8:03:22 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: SeekAndFind

33 posted on 12/01/2016 8:10:54 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: imardmd1

Flunked according to a works-based salvation advocate?

LOL!

Quote me one scripture in the NT where it is stated that sins send anybody to hell?

If that is really the case, the not only am I without hope, but so are you (and everybody else) since you seem to fail to grasp what 1 John 1:8 states.

The message to believers in HIM is GRACE...

1 John 1:9

Very simple. In fact so simple a gnat can understand it.

Don’t bother lowering yourself to brawling if you can’t debate.


34 posted on 12/02/2016 12:05:25 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Flunked according to a works-based salvation advocate?

Your words here pretend to read my mind. They are lies accusing me of false doctrine. In doing this, your conduct is sinful, which without repentance with apology, will send you to hell. And thinking you can read my mind can get you kicked off the FR forum, maybe the whole site.

Quote me one scripture in the NT where it is stated that sins send anybody to hell?

1 John 1:9 is about sins and sinning. In fact, So is verse 1:10 and verse 2:1 after that.

Examples of the consequences of sinning without repentance prior to death of one's body is recounted in Luke 12:1-10 and 16:20-31.

Don’t bother lowering yourself to brawling if you can’t debate.

I can debate, but you have no argument. You don't understand 1 John 1:9, so there's no debate.

35 posted on 12/02/2016 1:31:32 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Correction:

You don't seem to understand 1 John 1:9, so there's no debate.

36 posted on 12/02/2016 1:44:02 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

And you pretend to think that I don’t understand Yeshua’s word’s which leads to FALSE PUBLIC WITNESS...

Where does that leave you?

Keep digging and keep showing yourself to be the ignoramus you are.

God will never send anybody to hell for sin in this dispensation. Belief and Faith in HIS SON is the key.

Believe that or not - I care not.


37 posted on 12/02/2016 2:24:44 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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