Posted on 11/30/2016 2:41:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
1 Timothy 2:8, in fact.
It doesn’t mean that this is the only POSSIBLE way to worship. I’d find it rather hard to do that while being a pianist in a church ensemble, for instance. (OK, I lift them to the keyboard.) But as the Lord prompts it is right for people to obey.
Funny, never saw that in a Catholic Church or any services from the Vatican, etc. Perhaps you should send them a note to read scripture? They’re obviously not in the know.
There are “charismatic Catholic” congregations... do they do this? I dunno, I travel in Crazy Evangelical circles, aka pesky Protestant.
RE: Never really understood the whole waving hands in the air thing.
SOME PRECEDENTS FROM SCRIPTURE MIGHT HELP (ESV, English Standard Version):
Nehemiah 8:6 ESV
And Ezra blessed the Lord, the great God, and all the people answered, “Amen, Amen,” lifting up their hands. And they bowed their heads and worshiped the Lord with their faces to the ground.
1 Kings 8:54
Now as Solomon finished offering all this prayer and plea to the Lord, he arose from before the altar of the Lord, where he had knelt with hands outstretched toward heaven.
1 Timothy 2:8-10 ESV
I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands
Psalm 28:2 ESV
Hear the voice of my pleas for mercy, when I cry to you for help, when I lift up my hands toward your most holy sanctuary.
Ezra 9:5 ESV
And at the evening sacrifice I rose from my fasting, with my garment and my cloak torn, and fell upon my knees and spread out my hands to the Lord my God,
1 Kings 8:22 ESV
Then Solomon stood before the altar of the Lord in the presence of all the assembly of Israel and spread out his hands toward heaven,
Psalm 119:48 ESV
I will lift up my hands toward your commandments, which I love, and I will meditate on your statutes.
1 Kings 8:38 ESV
Whatever prayer, whatever plea is made by any man or by all your people Israel, each knowing the affliction of his own heart and stretching out his hands toward this house,
I never did until I started going to Nazarene Church. I was raised Catholic, Latin masses, etc. It wasn’t until I attended a Nazarene Church, had Bible studies, worship music (yes with a band,singers,drums, etc) that I first experienced the raising hand(s) in the air.
I felt so uncomfortable at first, seeing this in a church. Catholic churches were also so strict about any movement outside of the standing, kneeling, standing, sitting, kneeling.
I really felt I WAS committing a sin by raising my hands in the air at the Nazarene church.
It took me a while until I finally was “moved” to do so as well. I do it when I feel the Holy Spirit, the Lord moving in me. For me, it’s either when the Pastor is preaching or the music, songs are being played. The people in the Bible did sing and dance and raise their hands up to the Lord in praise.
“They’re obviously not in the know.”
The RC denomination doesn’t have scriptural support for half of what they do... nor do they do what they are supposed to do many times. That will not change.
I’ve seen a mix of people doing this in church services and not doing this in church services. The bible would seem to urge it be done. As everyone is convinced the Lord is moving them to do it.
The Roman Catholic view seems to be that the church and its teachings are continuing to evolve with them. Therefore if scriptures call for something, it can be superseded by their higher-ups.
Methinks this view is going to last until they run into something that renders their hierarchy’s directions utterly implausible. This may be happening with the Francis Vatican.
Then the Lutherans, at least, will say “Well, we told you so.”
There's a whole group of folks we often debate with who question the literal aspect of Genesis. They're on the other side of the river.
They might say that the priest is the only one who validly can do that. But that would even be historically incorrect to practice.
The question here is “how” the “literal” aspect of Genesis applies. One person’s mental model does not an authoritative theological explanation make.
You still are a Catholic and come back at any time. Just sit down with a priest and get your questions answered.
Your Catholic Baptism and Confirmation marks are on your soul to stay.
As long as you get closer to God, that’s great.
Look, if you gain solace and your faith in God grows, that’s WONDERFUL! It’s just not me. God bless you and your family.
“...and teach a literal interpretation of the Bible...”
Well, except for when they don’t:
“Jesus took bread, and blessed and broke, gave to his disciples and said: Take ye and eat: This is my body which is given for you,” according to St. Luke: “which shall be delivered for you,” according to St. Paul: “And taking the chalice he gave thanks and gave to them, saying: “Drink ye all of this: For this is my blood...”
You still are a Catholic and can come back at any time. Just sit down with a priest and get your questions answered.
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Nonsensical article.
Has no substance.
“Modern Worship” is simply throwing the scriptures in the trash can.
Roll yer own!
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All in parallel with other symbolic language documented from the Jewish Passover services in documents that go back to gospel times. They were told metaphorically that the matzo was this, the salt water was that, etc.
Now we jump into something that is quite out of context.
Are you saying that these mega churches like Osteen’s are not liberal? LOL!
Projecting like a cineplex again, I see.
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