Posted on 11/20/2016 10:43:00 AM PST by NRx
He is God but Mary is not the mother of the Father or the Holy Spirit. Hence the reason she’s not accorded mother of God.
She is the mother of Jesus. Is Jesus not God?
I know a great deal of catholicism and the central role Mary plays in Roman Catholicism.
The title "Mother of God" does not mean that she is the mother of the Trinity nor or the divinity of Jesus. Actually, this title is more about the person of Jesus than it is about Mary. There was an early heresy that Jesus was two persons, one divine and one human. The title "Mother of God" or Theotokos is used to show that Jesus has two natures, one divine and one human, but is one divine person. Since Mary is the mother of the one person who is Jesus, who is God, then she is the Mother of God.
A mother by definition precedes her child and at some point is more powerful than her child. So to call Mary the “mother of God” gives the misleading implication that Mary preceded and at one time was more powerful than the Lord God Almighty. Although Catholic doctrine tries to deny this implication, it is inescapable.
https://gotquestions.org/Mary-mother-God-theotokos.html
If that were so, then you would know that our love for Mary in no way diminishes our love for Jesus but rather flows from it. Our love for Mary also leads us deeper into a love of (and personal relationship with) Jesus. The two do not contradict one another. In Luke it says that all generations will call her blessed. Will not you?
Catholics understand the title of "Mother of God" as only applying to the person of Jesus and not to the entire Trinity. No Catholic declares that Mary is the mother of the Trinity or the mother of the divinity of Jesus. Why will you not accept what we mean by the title when we use it?
What catholics claim and what catholics do regarding Mary are two different things.
The idols of Mary, the kneeling before Mary, the prayers to Mary, the songs to Mary, the reliance upon mary for salvation, answered prayers, etc, say catholics worship Mary and have made her the centerpiece of Roman Catholicism.
There is a contradiction in catholicism on this. The Bible records Jesus as being our only Mediator and Redeemer yet catholicism accords her the false titles of co-redeemer and mediatrix.
Christians count Mary as being blessed in accordance with what Luke has recorded. However, we do not call her the "Blessed Mother" as that is not accorded to her in the text.
Why does Christianity not accept the claim of the muslim or the mormon?
Because their beliefs are counter to the Bible.
Roman catholicism's title, "Mother of God", is not in accord with the Bible as noted in my previous post.
Apples and oranges. I am not asking you to accept our beliefs but only what we mean when we, Catholic CHRISTIANS, say "Mother of God." We do not mean the mother of the Trinity or the mother of Jesus' divinity, only the mother of the one divine person, Jesus Christ. To imply that we do otherwise is to bear false witness to our beliefs. Or are you only interested in winning cheep debating points?
Your certainly entitled to believe what you want.
However, words mean things.
When you call Mary, the Mother of God, the implication is she is the mother of the Father and the Holy Spirit. It also gives the meaning God had a beginning. Neither of which are supported by Scripture.
I do not consider these "cheap debating points".
To correct a false doctrine is not a cheap debate point. Nor is calling out how Islam and Mormonism redefine terms to suit their needs, much as the catholic does with this issue, an apples and oranges comparison.
It either lines up with the Word or it doesn't.
The title, "Mother of God", is not supported by Scripture as much as the catholic wants it to be.
And the title of Mary as Mother of God means only that she is the mother of the one person Jesus Christ who is God.
Only in roman catholicism. It’s why Christianity rejects the claim.
What silliness. Catholicism was Christian for 1500 years before the invention of Protestantism.
Quick simple question. The “Hail Mary” prayer contains the words “Holy Mary”. Is Mary Holy and sinless?
If you mean the ekklesia, the church, yes. If you mean Roman Catholicism, no.
There is a difference between Christianity and Roman Catholicism.
Simple answer: yes.
Give me the date that you believe the Catholic Church was created.
In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship/adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture. So, if the origin of the Catholic Church is not in the teachings of Jesus and His apostles, as recorded in the New Testament, what is the true origin of the Catholic Church?
https://gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html
Simply word for you: Heresy. Only Jesus Christ was sinless. To say otherwise contradicts scripture and is heresy.
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