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To: metmom; miserare; ealgeone; daniel1212
He posted a statement from one of YOUR OWN POPES and cited it.

He posted and cited a statement that he doesn't even understand.

What kind of subjection is Unam Sanctam talking about? Political subjection? Dogmatic? Ecclesiastical obedience? Matters of personal opinion? Which is it? Because we *are* all subject to the Roman Pontiff (even heretics and pagans) in some ways but not in others. And that was as true in 1302 as it is now.

"Ya'll gotta do what he says."....really? Do we?

77 posted on 11/05/2016 6:05:31 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud; ealgeone
"Ya'll gotta do what he says."....really? Do we?

That's for YOU to answer.

It's your church and your salvation that is hanging on it according to your church's teaching.

For my part, I'll take Jesus' word for it that I am saved because HE said that if I believe on Him I have been saved.

John 3:3-8 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

79 posted on 11/05/2016 6:11:46 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Claud
He posted and cited a statement that he doesn't even understand.

What kind of subjection is Unam Sanctam talking about? Political subjection? Dogmatic? Ecclesiastical obedience? Matters of personal opinion? Which is it?

Seeing how you claim to understand it why don't you explain it to us.

You know why I'm suggesting you do this...don't you? Think about the playground.

80 posted on 11/05/2016 6:16:57 PM PDT by ealgeone
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