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To: miserare; ealgeone
Presumption is a sin. Old Catholic Catechism...sins against HOPE are presumption and despair.

Who cares (besides a Catholic) what the catechism says.

What does GOD say IN SCRIPTURE?

Show us where God says presumption is a sin.

65 posted on 11/05/2016 5:34:30 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Yes, I was searching the Scriptures and the web last night about despair equals sin. Someone mentioned it on Christian radio last night, and I’ve never heard of such a thing before in my Christian life.

I found many Catholic references to “sins against hope” including despair and presumption, but none of those references claim Scripture as the source.

Of course, Jesus often says be of good cheer and be not afraid. So I’m guessing if you violate these commands, they are sins. But Jesus never described these commands that way.


68 posted on 11/05/2016 5:41:39 PM PDT by Vision Thing (You see the depths of my heart, and You love me the same...)
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To: metmom
Who cares (besides a Catholic) what the catechism says. What does GOD say IN SCRIPTURE?

And this is where you guys lose your marbles. Because the same Church that wrote the Catechism wrote the Scriptures.

78 posted on 11/05/2016 6:10:16 PM PDT by Claud
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