Posted on 10/30/2016 9:05:35 PM PDT by Morgana
Lovely!
People who don’t sell out are few and far between. I was told this when I was young and didn’t know whether to believe it; now I am old and can’t deny it.
I prefer to interpret the commandment as “Thou shalt not murder”
>>No Bishop, no clergy can speak as an authority for the United Methodist Church. The only authority of the United Methodist Church for any issue is the Quadrennial General Conference.
Most rank-and-file Methodists know almost nothing about GC or even AC. They don’t deal with the Bishop either. For them, the DS and their own pastor speak with authority and they accept their words as the policy of the greater UMC.
And since the UMC does not accept the inerrancy of scripture, the authority of those men (and women) carry more weight than they should.
We all get tarred with the same brush. because of these lib pronouncements.
The Discipline is holding steady despite the assaults.
I am sick and tired of ignorant comments stated against the U.M.C. This LifeNews publication I used to reference for up to date info. But, what integrity do they have with continuous pointed slander without fact-checking?
I’m sorry, the author of this article DELIBERATELY went to only pro-choice individuals
>>I am sick and tired of ignorant comments stated against the U.M.C.
What did I say that isn’t true?
Absolutely.
I’m sorry, I lost my temper.
I am very tired today and dashed off a letter to LifeNews & this response to FreeRepublic. I’ve had just enough of this distortion and slander.
Thank you for telling it like it is!
God Bless You
Nothing you said was false. It was this ignorant article that had me fired up.
But, I truly wish U.M. clergy & laity would respond to outrageous slander against the denomination, i.e. this article printed in LifeNews newsletter!
Enough. It just has to stop.
>>It was this ignorant article that had me fired up.
>>Im sorry, the author of this article DELIBERATELY went to only pro-choice individuals
Because they are easy to find in the clergy of the UMC. I left the UMC after returning from Annual Conference in 2014. During the floor debate on some abortion-related motions, I heard things that I would never want to hear in the Body of Christ ever again.
I heard a pastor say, “we just don’t know when life really begins” and received a standing ovation from a large number of delegates.
I heard a pastor telling another pastor, “I’m sick of these extremists trying to push their agenda” when a Pro-Life pastor spoke.
I saw men with rainbow stoles walking around advocating abortion and then later seeing the women pastors lobbying for a gay-related motion. I know it was quid pro quo because I saw one particularly obvious gay pastor acting as whip to get these women up and yelling because he had supported their defeat of the abortion motions.
What the author wrote about is not ignorance. It is awareness. You know that the only reason why there aren’t openly practicing homosexuals in UMC pulpits is because of bible-believing African and Asian United Methodists—who are considered to be little more than Baptists by the left-leaning clergy in the UMC. Even with that, gay pastors usually just get by with a wink and nod as long as they don’t come out publicly.
There are are good conservative clergy in the UMC, but every year, they get harder and harder to find. I miss the “method” of Methodism, but the weak theology and Progressive politics at the Bishop level have rendered it useless to the kingdom of God. Now I say “weak” theology because it can only survive in a strong Christian culture. In our humanist culture today, it lacks the ability to overcome the lures of humanist/naturalist worldview.
I am sick about the hate and venom spewing from the mouths and hearts of leaders in the UMC.
That is an excellent letter, and I sincerely wish more UMC pastors would, indeed, follow the bound agreements of the National Conference. Please forgive my personal experience with ultra liberal, abortion-, IVF- and agay-supporting pastors in the Philadelphia and Baltimore Conferences who go about gaily ignoring the Discipline.
Should have talked to the pro life Bishop Olivetti. Oh, wait...
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