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To: Bryanw92

Nothing you said was false. It was this ignorant article that had me fired up.

But, I truly wish U.M. clergy & laity would respond to outrageous slander against the denomination, i.e. this article printed in LifeNews newsletter!

Enough. It just has to stop.


52 posted on 11/03/2016 1:22:09 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

>>It was this ignorant article that had me fired up.

>>I’m sorry, the author of this article DELIBERATELY went to only pro-choice individuals

Because they are easy to find in the clergy of the UMC. I left the UMC after returning from Annual Conference in 2014. During the floor debate on some abortion-related motions, I heard things that I would never want to hear in the Body of Christ ever again.

I heard a pastor say, “we just don’t know when life really begins” and received a standing ovation from a large number of delegates.

I heard a pastor telling another pastor, “I’m sick of these extremists trying to push their agenda” when a Pro-Life pastor spoke.

I saw men with rainbow stoles walking around advocating abortion and then later seeing the women pastors lobbying for a gay-related motion. I know it was quid pro quo because I saw one particularly obvious gay pastor acting as whip to get these women up and yelling because he had supported their defeat of the abortion motions.

What the author wrote about is not ignorance. It is awareness. You know that the only reason why there aren’t openly practicing homosexuals in UMC pulpits is because of bible-believing African and Asian United Methodists—who are considered to be little more than Baptists by the left-leaning clergy in the UMC. Even with that, gay pastors usually just get by with a wink and nod as long as they don’t come out publicly.

There are are good conservative clergy in the UMC, but every year, they get harder and harder to find. I miss the “method” of Methodism, but the weak theology and Progressive politics at the Bishop level have rendered it useless to the kingdom of God. Now I say “weak” theology because it can only survive in a strong Christian culture. In our humanist culture today, it lacks the ability to overcome the lures of humanist/naturalist worldview.


53 posted on 11/03/2016 1:32:10 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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