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To: piusv

Give me an example of a church doctrine that wasn’t always a doctrine of the Catholic Church at that time (doctrine, not abuses...which are two different things).


The pope as de jure ruler of the church.

Transubstantiation.

The Mass as a propitiatory sacrifice.

More recently, papal infallibility, assumption of Mary. If there really is a faith delivered once for all to the saints (Jude 3), then doctrine cannot change.

And let’s not even get into justification by faith alone or sola scriptura :)


38 posted on 11/02/2016 6:25:04 PM PDT by CraigEsq
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To: CraigEsq
But those things were always Catholic Church doctrine through its Ordinary Universal Magisterium. Church doctrine does not always have to be defined by the Extraordinary Magisterium (ex cathedra statement by the pope or by an Ecumenical Council in agreement with the pope) as was a number of the things you listed.

Usually when a teaching is defined at a later point in time it does not mean it is new. It means that it has always been the teaching of the Church. The formal definition is made to combat heresies at the time, etc. and to make it clear that the teaching was always Church teaching.

I don't blame you for not knowing this as many, many Catholics don't even know this.

39 posted on 11/03/2016 2:49:25 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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