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To: boatbums

boatbums...you make a good point about Abraham was made righteous because he believed Yah when Yah said to him that his descendants would be as many as the stars of the sky and the sand on the shore.Genesis 15:6(A fascinating study is to find where those descendants are today.)

Along with that is the words of Yahshua John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

At the time Yahshua spoke this “my word” was the Torah. So if you heard and did His Torah and believed on Yahweh who sent him, you were saved eternally.

Go figure. doesn’t line up with church doctrine


17 posted on 10/24/2016 11:16:26 AM PDT by ladyL (Warfare prayer)
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To: ladyL
Along with that is the words of Yahshua John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. At the time Yahshua spoke this “my word” was the Torah. So if you heard and did His Torah and believed on Yahweh who sent him, you were saved eternally. Go figure. doesn’t line up with church doctrine

It doesn't line up with Scripture. If Jesus (I know Sacred Namers don't like that name) meant we had to do "His Torah" to be redeemed, He would have said so. But he repeatedly said it was belief and faith in Him that saved us. Hearing His word is the good news He preached of redemption by His shed blood for our sins. He is our Passover lamb - the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. It's not by what you "do" plus faith, but faith only. That doesn't mean we should go out and live as we please in debauchery, just that our works do not save us - Jesus saves us by grace THROUGH faith in Him. If we must do Torah in addition to having faith, then it is no longer grace that saves us. Grace is unmerited favor.

19 posted on 10/24/2016 7:11:04 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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